Truck drivers across Norway are going to be congesting roads by driving at 40kph in the Easter holidays to protest record-high fuel prices caused by the Trump administration.
If a climate activist mentioned the *possibility* of doing this in a group chat they'd be jailed and fined millions within hours
https://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/_dieselbrolet_-er-i-gang-_-saktegaende-trafikk-flere-steder-1.17827420
@ketan Driving slow must be the norm, for climate reason... and safety.
Not only a way of protest.
Here in Spain farmers and transportist also make this kind of protest, and they want cheap oil to combat the low prices caused by climate change.
The have an petrol-brain
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they tried this in my bit of England a year or two ago, on the A12 highway between Suffolk/Essex and London.
It had near 0 effect, as the roads are often so congested anyway no one really noticed the traffic was going that much slower 😁
@david_preston @ketan But the climate, now, it IS.
And it doesn't play well with diesel.
Quote: "Det er mulig at ikke alle er klar over hvor enkelt det er å søke om støtte til elektrisk lastebil, så vi ønsker å forklare prosessen noe nærmere. "
Or: 95% of those who apply for government support to buy an electric truck has gotten a positive answer, with between 70 000 and 160 000 Euro paid out.
So there are grants, and fairly big ones. The question is will.
@david_preston @ketan I'd say so, yes. If you need to buy a new truck, then 1.6 million NOK does quite a good bit to offset the extra cost.
In particular since companies can deduct rather a lot of their expenses from tax as it is.
In Ålesund today police told them no. Also turns out that "they" here were a total of seven vehicles, counting two trucks and one ATV. Impressive.
@ketan Over the past 50 years, petroleum-related unrest in the US has generally been truckers and farmers protesting high diesel prices, rather than ordinary drivers.
https://www.history.com/articles/oil-crisis-1973-truck-strike
@ketan
The economics of big electric trucks are less favourable than Diesels.
Thus far.
(6 tonnes of battery reduces payload, and it is payload tonnes cruising at 60mph that governs profitability in trucking)
This may be adjusted, may change, and surely has some use cases (volume loads of light mass?) where it has already changed.
@etchedpixels @ketan
There are all-up weight limits on ours.
There is a nicely worked example on the Web, I can't point at it this moment.
For smaller trucks doing stop-start deliveries in urban traffic, combustion is obsolescent already.
@etchedpixels @Photo55 @ketan less servicing downtime is very valuable, especially if you are not large enough for a large fleet.
Alternative options to make Electric more competitive:
1/ Overhead lines (like electric trains) for sections of motorway meaning you need only a small battery to get you through the gaps and to your destination. Trialed in Germany a few years ago.
2/ Trains...
3. An increase in the speed limit on motorways for electric large trucks of 2 mph (or a reduction of 2mph in the Eurolimiter-governed) limit for Diesel ones, or both.
4. An increase in permitted all-up weight for electric trucks which might need to be 4 tonnes.
With respect, you were looking at the wrong things, nice though they are. Logistics outranks TCO
Some of it is in the conclusions here
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0739885926000247
But Diesel price is very important also.
My apologies.
And that explains why the motorways are nose to tail electric HGVs
@ketan Ah yes, because this is totally the citizens of Norway's fault. /s.
Perhaps they'd have better luck at the US Embassy.
I sure hope Norwegian electeds get the message on how important this is and take some action to end Trump.
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