If you're sexually frustrated & can never find a mate & decide to live a life of "nofap," what are the effects that buildup of sexual frustration has?

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If you're sexually frustrated & can never find a mate & decide to live a life of "nofap," what are the effects that buildup of sexual frustration has? - Divisions by zero

And does the SF ever go away?

Your balls will explode!
I’m a woman.
In that case, your balls probably won’t explode then.
You’ll grow balls and then they’ll explode!
Chesticles will explode
I’d imagine this is how you turn yourself into a psycho killer.
Qu’est-ce que c’est ?
Sorry I haven’t taken Latin since high school
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Sounds like a categorically terrible idea. Is there any ackshuall proof having 1 orgasm per day (regardless of the outlet or method) is harmful in any measurable/quantifiable way besides reducing desperation for sex?
Actually helps prevent prostate cancer in men, idk about women’s hard data physical effects.
I sincerely dont and cant understand no-fap outside of an addiction 12-steps/abstinence style vantage point.
It’s extremely dumb and only ever pushed by grifters, usually manosphere type losers.
Like, i dont get how they (presumuably) view having an orgasm-via-penis-in-vagina everyday as truly and biologically distinct from everyday orgasm-via-masturbation. I dont think your body truly knows the difference in a mechanical sense.
Idk I’m not a doctor but you sound right

Having never looked into it, beyond what I come across occasionally on sites like this, I always assumed the idea was that being desperate for “relief” somehow made them more attractive to women, hormonally, or made them more “alpha”? Somehow.

Really stupid shit that kids fall for, I guess.

being desperate for “relief” somehow makes men more attractive to women, hormonally

It’s true!

being desperate for “relief” somehow made them more attractive to women

We all know that the thing women are most attracted to is desperation. /s

Mechanical isn’t the only part being played. There’s hormones too. I’m positive there’s differences there depending on alone or with someone. Whether or not that has any health implications I’ve no idea.
I’ve also seen it recommended for breaking “death grip” habits.
Yeah it would basically be an anti addiction approach for me. Addiction runs in my family and we get addicted to everything remotely pleasurable. So I’ve spent my whole life saying no to alcohol & drugs & cigarettes, and since I cant find a suitable companion I have to say no to orgasms too 🤷🏼‍♀️ For me it feels empowering.

Well I’m a woman and I’ve talked to some men too who agree that when we masturbate it tends to make us turn socially inward & diminishes our drive to reach out to other people.

Whereas sexual frustration compels us to go out into the world with a sense of hunger & ambition, seeking social interaction & activities.

It’s the lifestyle I’ve chosen because after years of suffering all aspects of this mortal hell we call life, I’d rather feel paragraph 2 than paragraph 1.

It would seem like the source of this unhealthy worldview probably isn’t the masturbation. But if nofap honestly (honestly) helps you, then knock yourself out.
Life is about balance. You dont want to be a reclusive masturbation addict, and you don’t want to be an anxious frustrated nofapper.
Yeah but every time I cum alone, it reinforces the alone-ness. I’m sick of self-perpetuating loneliness. Going out into the world with hunger & ambition & angst feels empowering right now.
Then IMO follow what makes you feel right. In general just avoid taking things to extremes.
That same idea can get you into bad relationships. It’s better to find a partner with a level head.
You’re a woman who wants to “NoFap”?
I was just using a quick easy term that you’re all familiar with. Though Im pretty sure the word “fap” is an onomatopoeia for the rhythmic fleshy smacking noise of penis being furiously stroked in one’s own hand.

Beliefs shape the way we feel. There’s no biological reason to feel lonely after masturbation. That’s all pseudoscience bollocks. Female orgasms cause a peak of neural activation, if anything, you should feel more active and hungry to go face the world. But the point is that this changes or differences that are usually quoted by charlatans from neurological studies, while significant, are so tiny as to not be an actual factor at an individual level.

Humans are also bad at correctly discerning causation and correlation, specially within their own emotional experience. Thus why therapy works, it’s a third party that can more objectively call out your contradictions and point out causes.

Now I would gather you believe that masturbation is something awful lonely people do and that’s why you feel lonely when you masturbate. This doesn’t mean there’s anything inherently wrong with you. However, most people ignore that most of our worldviews, and beliefs we take for granted are actually cemented in childhood experiences, not always traumatic. But they do build the foundations op our personalities.

I dont agree with that statement unless you’re chronically masturbating to hours a day gooner levels. I personally MUST get the poison out once a day whether thats with my girl or myself. That’s just how my body/mind works. As far as going out to participate in activities. I don’t see not getting a regular nut making you more likely to do a pottery class.
I just saw several posts the last 2 days of a study that showed that if you don’t cum enough, your sperm becomes a bunch of dumb dumbs. Yes, I used scientific lingo for that, I’m sorry.
Don’t be a pussy, man up and castrate yourself.
I’m a woman.
This response reminds me of my favorite comedy podcast: SuperEgo.
There is an extensive catalog of toys for you to make you feel things no man will ever do
Oh I have all those toys. And believe me that might be part of the problem. No man has ever satisfied me like those toys do. But I’m tired of wasting my energy on robots. I want the love & oxytocin & presence of a human.
After reading through the whole post, I doubt that.
You’re doubting that I’m a woman? 🤣 Ok you keep enjoying your mental gymnastics. Whatever entertains you 🤷🏼‍♀️
How would mental gymnastics come into this?

Do you know what gymnastics is? It’s doing a bunch of flips & tumbles to get from point A to point B instead of just walking there, sometimes going the opposite direction and ending up back where you started, or in a completely different place.

Mental gymnastics is when you read something that’s pretty straightforward but your brain goes & unravels it & turns it inside out & upside down & comes up with an entirely different idea than what was presented. Sometimes it’s necessary to do that which is called critical thinking, but sometimes it’s unnecessary to do that and that’s what you did here. Because everything I said was straightforward, I am not creative enough to tell lies.

I know what mental gymnastics is, don’t be condescending. It doesn’t apply here.
Well it would’ve taken you a lot less effort to read this post at face value than to do flips & tumbles in your mind to come to your own conclusion that I’m the opposite gender than I stated.
I can only guess anger, depression and extreme irritability. Especially in such a asexually culture.

I’m in it, last relationship was 17 years or so ago

I mean it ain’t all bad. So long as you don’t mind the actual loneliness, the physical touch gets easy to forget.

But I dunno if I’d recommend this to anyone tbh

Benefits: You can take all the meds with sexual side effects (e.g. most anti-depressants) which is actually a significant reason people ultimately stop taking them, and folks with testicles retain all their spermidine which low n RCTs have shown early evidence for autophagy-based longevity.
I don’t understand the idea of not fapping.

Most religions require sacrifice of something considered normal, delicious or maiming of the body. Like not reading a certain type of meat, not drinking alcohol or cutting ones foreskin.

It’s s test of dedication which, if embraced, will bond one to the cult. Not masturbating can be seen in a similar way. It’s just asceticism rebranded.

You’re asking a bunch of chronically online lemmy nerds what they think of masturbation. So if you’re looking for an impartial response then you’ve come to the wrong place.
🤣 You’re not wrong.
I am guessing the “nofap” idea comes from religion. Amazing how a god is so obsessed with sex. Makes one wonder if it is just men trying to control a natural drive in order to control others.
While the reason for someone to follow “nofap” varies from person to person. It does not come from religion. It is mainly a movement to help fight porn addiction.
Porn addiction is controversial. It probably came from religion to.

I’m a woman to start.

There’s two modes I’ve found myself in when not masturbating - I’m either purposefully staying aroused and denying an orgasm to heighten sexual tension and pleasure OR I’m not masturbating because life is busy for whatever reason and my libido diminishes over time.

So it depends. And I think everyone is a little different as well, so you might want to play with not masturbating to reduce sexual frustration to see if it works for you.

purposefully staying aroused and denying an orgasm to heighten sexual tension and pleasure

Honestly I think I’m in this camp! I have a strong feeling the best is yet to come and it’s not too far in the future, I look stunning in a bikini and I just bought three sparkly new ones and I live at the beach and so many beautiful people around here ✨

Personally, I think “NoFap” is bro-science with little basis in anything even remotely factual.

As someone who was single (and a virgin, to apply a social construct) well into my 30s, I can totally relate to the emotional burden that loneliness, sexual frustration, social isolation, and all of the self-negative thoughts that come from feeling broken and unlovable. I get it, I really do!

To say that “it sucks” is an understatement, and I truly understand how feeling those kinds of feelings can make some “incel” guys lash out and be angry at themselves, women, or society at large. That’s not an attempt to excuse bad behavior, of course, but only to say that I understand the emotional context that too often breeds it.

I genuinely believe that loneliness really is an epidemic, for men and women alike, in both friendship and romance, and when you combine that with a modern political climate that seeks profit and power from fostering culture wars and driving wedges between regular people, it’s not hard to understand how we have become conditioned to hate ourselves and each other.

Undoubtedly, there is a serious problem with modern culture and proprietary app-driven socialization.

But here’s the key point: I really don’t think depriving yourself of sexual pleasure is going to make you less lonely, less isolated, less self-negative, or even more motivated to meet others.

Self-control can be a virtue, sure. There is certainly value in being able to resist instant gratification and controlling one’s urges…

But choosing to live a “life of NoFap” isn’t going to do anything to address the core reasons why you feel lonely or isolated in the first place. All you are really doing, in my view, is kicking yourself while you’re down–punishing yourself for being lonely, when you should instead be practicing self-care. You’re not addressing your problems, you’re adding to them.

Companionship, romance, and sex are different things, crucially. Ideally we would have them all, but you can have one without the others. So, with that in mind, why on Earth should a person deprive themselves of sexual pleasure just because they are lacking in romance or companionship?

The unspoken and unappreciated truth is that you don’t, and shouldn’t, need to be in a relationship to have a satisfying “sex life”. And likewise, people who aren’t in a relationship shouldn’t feel the need to deprive themselves of sexual pleasure due to some false idea that somehow being sexually frustrated will make you more motivated, attractive and likable.

If you really want to build relationships and have sex, start touching grass, getting to know people, and going out on dates. Shower, shave, wear clean clothes and deodorant, brush up on current events and take up some hobbies. Don’t just look for “girlfriends”, make friends and grow your social circle in general. If you have to ignore the superficial bullshit dating apps and meet people in other ways, then good, more power to you. But that’s really all it takes.