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Jason LefkowitzHarry Potter and the Jesus Christ You're Still Into That, What the Fuck
Spend so long waiting for a letter from Hogwarts an AARP card shows up first
Janne Moren@jalefkowit
"Yea're a geezer, Harry!"
"Yea're a geezer, Harry!"
Chris [list of emoji]So my theory about HP (and also The Da Vinci Code) is that it's not so much the books its fans have discovered but the joy of reading, but they've learned the wrong lesson and attribute it to that specific mediocre book instead of written fiction as a whole.
Lyn@jalefkowit Harry Potter and the You're Not a Hufflepuff, you're thirty four
Lab-TediousBastard-Spokane@frogglin @jalefkowit Harry Potter and that time they lit JK Rowling’s yacht on fire.
AN/CRM-114@frogglin @jalefkowit Harry Potter and the my dude if Hogwarts were real there would be a court order banning you from residing within 500 feet of it
LisPi@flyingsaceur @frogglin @jalefkowit Honestly given the whole "mindrape is normalized and date-rape drugs are sold in the open", I don't think one would really want to have anything to do with its surrounding country.
gusseting@jalefkowit two tastes that taste great together re: HP. Yours, and Verge:
https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116291641538524981 c/o @nileane
https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116291641538524981 c/o @nileane
sounddrill 
@jalefkowit I get what you're saying, I really do. Despite this being a big part of my childhood, I have boycotted her works.
However... I cannot bring myself to hate my friends for not boycotting the things I dislike. A weakness of mine
xyhhx 
@sounddrill but they recognize rowling being a transphobe is awful at least, right?
@xyhhx @jalefkowit oh yeah they do.
I don't have any friends that love JK Rowling after that, I think. It was a general statement after some self introspection
@sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit
The artist is not the art is not the fandom. You can like horrible peoples' work without condoning the author. (Or, as someone on here put, Rowling is a horrible person who did one good thing.)
In any case, I don't think it's a moral failing to like HP, as long as you're not *paying* for it.
Agnieszka R. Turczyńska@suetanvil @sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit Nope. Here is a good explanation: https://disabled.social/@Aaidanbird/116294513543754105
The Bird (@[email protected])
Note to cis people: If you watch and support Harry Potter series, you are funding the anti-trans crusade that is killing people like me and stripping away our rights. Experts have warned that in the US and UK the steps toward genocide against trans people are accelerating. I ask: Do you care more about nostalgia of fictional people? or Do you care about actual people like myself and our right to exist in society like you? This isn't a trick question. Do the right thing please. #trans
Magnus Ahltorp@agturcz @suetanvil Are you saying we should permanently condemn everyone who has at any point been in the Harry Potter fandom?
Condemning giving money is one thing, condemning liking something is another thing completely.
@ahltorp @suetanvil For the first paragraph: I deeply believe people can change.
The second paragraph is your opinion. You're free to have it. But you will be judged, individually by each trans person, and determined if you are a safe person for them, or not. Some of them may know you personally, and they might say "yes", and mean it. Other will see only this toot, and make a quick evaluation - right, or wrong - based on their former experiences with people having opinion similar to you.
You have been informed. Do with this knowledge whatever you like.
To be clear, I don't actually *like* HP. I was pretty meh on it when it came out and have studiously avoided it since Rowling whipped out her transphobia for the world to see.
But, if that decision were harder--if HP was something I loved and it meant a lot to me--I don't know if I'd have made that decision. And so I can't judge someone for choosing the difficult choice just because it was easy for me.
(ctd)
I bring this up because it's better to have many imperfect allies than few perfect ones and chasing away folks who are mostly on your side except for this one niggling thing is going to do more harm than good.
Someone who sincerely supports trans rights and realizes Rowling a shitty person but still enjoys this creation of hers and the surrounding fan culture is still someone you want on your side.
(ctd)
@suetanvil @ahltorp So far majority of people I've considered as imperfect allies revealed they open leaning to the transphobic side, when the situation demanded it.
Accidentally, those people in my social circle who still declared as liking HP, and buying a merch from the universe, also were caught repeating transphobic dogwhistles.
So, this is my experience. I will keep myself reluctant for befriending this kind of people.
@suetanvil @ahltorp Surrounding fan culture implies buying merchandise, so there is a stream of income for her.
And, solely by existing, the fan culture makes it worthy to make a new creations, as there will be people willing to pay for it.
What you are saying is just trying to find excuses, denying accountability.
And last but not least - everyone is an ally if it costs nothing. But if the actual act is needed, then the allyship suddenly evaporates.
@suetanvil @sounddrill @xyhhx @jalefkowit And if that's not enough, here is more: https://beige.party/@Tattooed_Mummy/116294236841194747
The Tattooed Nonna 🧙♀️ (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image J.K. Rowling uses personal wealth to fund anti-trans org | Advocate.com Harry Potter profits are going directly to anti-transgender legal cases. https://www.advocate.com/news/jk-rowling-anti-trans-organization
even if you aren't buying the books or related merchandise, you normalize this kind of behaviour, advertise the franchise (which will probably lead to continued/increased sales), and frankly are just telling everyone where your values lie: that actual people being erased isn't important to you.
i've been doing this song and dance with black metal nazi bands for a long time: if you think "the art isn't the artist" you're supporting nazis (or in rowling's case, transphobia)
to continue the nazi analogy: hitler did some water painting too, do you think thats pretty cool or nah?
also, like, harry potter *isn't* that good. as far as fantasy fiction go it's mediocre, but it *is* littered with racism:
Licho@sounddrill friendship is important. Don't cut off your friends when they obviously need you. If you actually can't stand the mental cost of staying with them, sure, but not before that. We seriously need to normalize sticking to friends despite some awful views they have because you might turn out their bridge back into sanity or prevent their radicalization. @jalefkowit
CyI feel like I get blocked so much for saying stupid shit that seems like such a great idea at the time, and if someone's like "Hey that's stupid, and shit," I'm like "Oh shit man you're right."
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@licho @sounddrill @jalefkowit I understand where you are coming from. But this is a strawman. This is an edge case to the edge case. To the point that your argument seems very centrist, big tentish.
I used to grant people I know quite huge benefit of doubts. For sake of keeping a relationship. For sake of not making the drama, especially if those were my ex friends. And let me tell you, it doesn't end on them loving H.P. It doesn't bother them that JKR is hurting trans people. When told it, they double down. They do not even have will to change anything. So I can hardly call such asymmetric relationship a friendship. And, at the very end, it's their choice to either change their views, or to radicalise further.
Yeah, of course, this is a case by case basis. But if someone is repeatably and knowingly acting in a way hurting me, that relationship is toxic, and it's time to quit.
And look, here is the field I grow my benefits of doubts. It's barren.
merigold@licho @sounddrill @jalefkowit
The notion that we are supposed to keep friends with people who have awful wiews is very bothering to me. When their wievs become too awful to tolerate? What do they need to do in order for us to say "enough"? How can I keep friends with someone who hurts me or my friends? Or even strangers?
I had a friend once, he used to be very conservative politically and we quarreled about that a lot. At some point he decided to join an anti-refugee march in my hometown. At the same time, he kept friendly relationship with another friend's boyfriend, who happened to be a refugee.
Is this enough? He was nice to this guy, so maybe the nazi march was just something I should glance over?
I had another friend, a very close friend. Las Spring she went for a volunteering gig to Israel, to help some farmer pick strawberries, because his three sons were in the army. So, what to do? Are these views awful enough to say goodbye? Or should I disregard the fact that she went to help some guy, because people who should have helped him, were away, killing innocent babies?
And should I keep close to my uncle, who's homophobic and transphobic, but he cried happy tears when he saw me after many years in another country? He's after all my closest relative on the side of my deceased father. And he loves me, clearly he loves me so much, the only thing I need to do is pretend that he's just a guy, just my uncle, who never does anyone any harm, but taught his two sons to hate LGBT+ people?
Sorry for the rant, but see - these are just normal people. They never harmed anybody, they're nice and all. And yet...
@merigold you don't have to but I believe it's a virtuous thing to do. It's not a demand or a judgement. You always have weight costs and decide for yourself, based on your energy, capacity and judgement. By staying you're helping them at a personal cost to yourself. It's a lot.
I feel that I'm quite alone in saying it's even okay to be friends with people acting awfully, let alone saying it is a virtue. 99% of the time I am being judged for *not* disassociating.
@licho @sounddrill @jalefkowit
Lots and lots of people share this opinion, it's mainstream.
Having said that, I'm not going to try to convince you, you already have everything you need to understand the opposite opinion.
@merigold it is? Hmm, maybe not in my bubble.
I feel I do understand your opinion and I agree yo really don't have to suffer through it for anyone's sake. I still think it's virtuous thing to do and friends are important. Ofc not all friends are important. Maybe I should have said it's about "true friends", like ones that you can call in the middle of the night saying you killed a man and they tell you they are coming with the shovel in 15 minutes. You know what I mean.
Christina Jennifer@jalefkowit Harry Potter and the Adults Who Need To Read Another Fucking Book
kira for scale@jalefkowit Harry Potter and the Trans Genocide Financier
Hugs4friends ♾🇺🇦 🇵🇸😷@jalefkowit Harry Potter and the Dirty Bloody Terfs.
Martin Schlegel@jalefkowit was never into Harry Potter, to many internal inconsistencies in the world building. Which to me is a big thing when it's strong enough to brake my immersion, which it did.
Janne@jalefkowit makes one wish death of the artist was a thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Sauce#/media/File%3AHP_Fruity_(cropped).jpg
Tock@jalefkowit Actually, trim some words off and that is the perfect Paramount/Skydance/Warner Bros. fodder to pander to their intended suckers.
Harry Potter & the Jesus Christ.
No further pitch needed.
Mandrake 🐎@jalefkowit To quote Stewart Lee: "I haven't read [Harry Potter], but I have read the complete works of the Romantic poet and visionary William Blake, so fuck off!"
Mx. Eddie R@jalefkowit
Harry Potter and the Ashes of our Former Friendship You Absolute Bigot-Licking Chud.
Harry Potter and the Ashes of our Former Friendship You Absolute Bigot-Licking Chud.