is linux ableist? how?

some backstory: i was talking to a friend who was thinking of switching away from windows 10 to a mac because windows 11 is... well, terrible for a slew of reasons. i, perhaps too excitedly, brought up linux. they were talking about wanting something that works and i said i struggled with too and linux is actually much easier to use than i thought it'd be.

they then called me ableist for recommending linux because its assumptive that someone who is neurodivergent like them would have an easy time with linux at all. that how linux works itself is inaccessible and ableist in of itself (whereas macs and windows are not). i tried opening up a more in depth conversation about it but they werent available for it. so i figured id ask here, because im really confused, and would like to learn more

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@insecteuthanasia All operating systems are ableist as they are made with nondisabled people in mind. However, the question is which of them provides the best support or tech that allows disabled folks to access most features in the OS?

A lot of linux systems do not have accessibility tech (like screenreaders). It often lacks features for those that require visual or audio adjustments. Windows or Macs have some, but Disability community is still fighting for more accessibility within an OS.

@insecteuthanasia Now having said that, this isn't to say all linux OS are inaccessible. I found Ubuntu to have similar accessibility options to Windows, but the upkeep of those access options are not done well. Linux devs often fail to include the voices of disabled folks when determining features to implement. sometimes devs may belittle us if we try to bring up these issues. Why? Because devs aren't willing to examine their own biases.

We live in an ableist society and taught to be that way.

@insecteuthanasia Again, all OS systems suffer from ableism to some degree, but for disabled folks, Linux in particular can be like salt in a wound. We expected better from that community, and often we're left with scraps. We already deal with scraps from Windows and Macs.

Accessibility ought to be the core to any OS system as that would improve it for all people, not just disabled folks. But until we convince devs of that, OS systems will remain ableist to some degree.

@insecteuthanasia As for you being ableist for recommending linux? I wouldn't consider you so. I would consider your suggestion to be somewhat ignorant of the complexity regarding access with various OS systems. You reaching out to ask questions to better understand shows you care, so thank you for that.

I'm willing to chat more about it, but I'm out of energy now so need rest. So my replies may take a bit.

@Aaidanbird

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