James BakerHouse of Lords has defeated Government again on Online Safety. Rejecting new Henry VIII powers to ban sites. Insisting on an under 16 ban for social media. Also dropping requirement to age gate VPNs 🎉. Final twist Kidron has proposed a new raft of amendments that create quite radical changes to the Online Safety Act. I guess in hope Government goes for them in ping pong. #Parliament #onlinesafety #VPN
Here are the receipts - vote on Nash amendment https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/lords/division/3608 anyone interested in the new Kidron amendments https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/65607/documents/8082
Graham Smith@JamesBaker Is there a link to the new Kidron amendments? Are they possibly related to the OSAN 10 point plan to amend the OSA?
@JamesBaker “The feeling that the House has, and I am sure I speak for all of us when I say this, is that something has gone wrong with the legislative structure that we have in place in this area” (Lord Stevenson). Well yes, but Parliamentarians were not interested in hearing that the design of the legislation was foundationally defective. In the result, it is working exactly as designed.
@cyberleagle Yes and the new changes also won’t stop all the harms because complicated systems of speech will adapt to specific design restrictions the law places upon them.
@cyberleagle I did wonder if the ‘duty of care’ would include protection of human rights too or if a ‘serious harm’ could be something that arose from a restriction of a right such a freedom of expression or privacy.
@JamesBaker Lord Bridge, Caparo v Dickman: "It is never sufficient to ask simply whether A owes B a duty of care. It always necessary to determine the scope of the duty by reference to the kind of damage from which A must take care to save B harmless." Tort 101.
Simon Zerafa (Status: 
😊)That's very interesting news 🙂👍
Dash@JamesBaker This feels like a competition between the two Houses for the most ill-thought-out ideas.
@dash They will do anything other than help to build resilience among young people to harms through education and support services.
AnneH@JamesBaker @dash If only they had put all the money wasted on OSA & the like into youth clubs, sports centres, media/online education for parents & young people. Always the kneejerk to control, curtail, prevent.
@annehargreaves @dash The opportunity cost is huge. When you consider how much resource goes into the global age verification industry let alone the Ofcom and compliance costs and platform fees etc even before how it’s dominated over all other children mental health causes such as CAHMS backlog, SEND support, exam stress etc
@JamesBaker @dash Another aspect is that the number of adults who are not looking after under-18s must surely be a majority and are now having ID imposed.
@dash I find myself wondering often which of the ideas that won’t work are the least bad. It’s very frustrating that there is such a chasm between people who want safety and those that understand what might work technically to actually achieve that without causing different harms.
Kevin Karhan 
@JamesBaker #UK really wants to be known as a #cyberfascist shithole, I guess.
- "#AgeVerification" IS the #IllicitActivity!