Me, foolish child: Surely there is a way to easily turn off all the lights built-in to put on the default dashboard…

[2 hours, tens of search results, new knowledge acquired later]

Me: I once again conclude that Home Assistant is not actually good.

#HomeAssistant

Yes, yes, dearest Home Assistant super fan, I know, I know. I’m holding it wrong. It’s me, not the product. I should just use surveillance technology if I want a reasonable UX because I am not committed enough to Sparkle Motion.

#HomeAssistant

Home Assistant is good plumbing, but a terrible toilet.

#HomeAssistant #InternetOfShit #IoT #UX

@Jeremiah I have no clue what that means.
@Crow Home Assistant is good at connecting all the messy technical things together (the plumbing, the pipes), but the user interface (the toilet) is terrible.

@Jeremiah

The plumbing leaves more and more to be desired as well: That monolith with tons of direct integrations serves well unless it suddenly doesn‘t.

I‘m more fond of the UI than the plumbing.

@Crow

@Jeremiah are you just trolling the entire Home Assistant community? If so - Amusing.
Meanwhile I’ll get back to my 3 year bar updates uptime install that runs, my home, music and… Car! All better than the native apps.
I will confess it took some effort to achieve relative Nirvana.
@bj @Jeremiah yeah I don't get it either. I'm not far off three year stability myself, things that just work etc. When you sometimes forget you have Home Assistant, that's just winning.

@bj Not trolling, genuinely frustrated by Home Assistant users on Reddit who blame me every time the product befuddles me as a home automation novice.

How do you have 3 years of uptime? Every week there is an update that I have to manually tap to install and many of those require reboots.

@Jeremiah fair point 🙃
I was not including reboots after updates. They tend to be well manged and I happily tap yes for non-point-zero updates. So I skip the first release every month.
I automatically back up for ever OS and Core update, but have never needed to restore

What is your setup? Here’s a bit about mine.

@Jeremiah
I actually run multiple homes for myself and others, so reliability is a really big deal. People come to rely on the little dashboards I build them.
I use dedicated RPi’s with SSD for logs and media. Also, wired network, metal case and a quality power supply.
I use Nabu Casa to provide secure remote access. When people rely on their #HomeAssistant this much, the mobile app and remote access is a big deal.
@Jeremiah @bj I don’t update mine very often. I just did updates this weekend after not touching it since fall last year. I rarely have ever even noticed the updates adding anything I care about. Second using Nabus cloud. It’s pretty cheap and just works.

@Jeremiah

You’re not holding it wrong, but from my perspective your whole comment sounds ignorant.

I have a button that turns on and turns off all the lights. But in that context it’s actually not all the lights, only the ones I want. Like the outside lights that are turned off or on according to sunrise and sunset are not included, the same goes for a few night lights that are activated and turned off on other schedules and automations which also depends on if we’re home or not.

So saying you just want this seemingly simple thing, is actually not so simple. But there could be other options?
For instance, all my lights are Philips Hue lights, so they all connect to HA via the Hue bridge. There is a global turn off in that app. Perhaps it’s addressable somehow?
If you’re on iOS you can add Hue to the Home app and then create a button or just tell Siri.

Another great thing is that there are many options in this space. Perhaps Homey is more your vibe? Home Assistant is certainly not the best system out there, but I’d wager it’s the most connected one with the most integrations. But what does that matter if the system you have checks all your boxes?