Leander Lindahl đŞđşSwitch to a European search engine
#qwant #ecosia #startpage
Advice #006
Digital Sovereignty Council
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Other (better?) ones:
Le Chat (Pro) because that's how you "google" nowadays: https://chat.mistral.ai/
Probably the best experience and transparent business model, but expensive: https://metager.org/
A real (not meta) search engine: https://www.mojeek.com/
Self hosted meta engine: https://docs.searxng.org/
@leanderlindahl
I use Le Chat Pro from Mistral and Startpage and Mojeek. Ecosia is an awful and bloated experience.
I use Le Chat Pro from Mistral and Startpage and Mojeek. Ecosia is an awful and bloated experience.
@sigismundninja yes, I use le chat too, but I don't do searches for facts with LLM:s. And for many simpler searches like "recipe lasagne", "opening hours library of Lund" or "European alternatives web site" it doesn't make sense to me.
I use LLMs for coding and prototyping mostly. For "chat" I strongly recommend Le Chat, just like you.
@leanderlindahl
Same here. I still use the good old search engine for food.
For technical stuff I usually first try a chat bot though. Unless I know that the information probably is in some reference manual or official guide. (A chat bot can still be better for that. Especially if I have added the manuals explicitly via RAG.)
Most search results are AI generated crap, so I tend to just generate it "myself". Then it usually turns out pretty good.
@sigismundninja
Yes, you have to find what works for you. I agree that LLMs are useful as a kind of StackOverflow reference (replacement). I like to use @Qwant and @ecosia to support them creating an independent European search index, which they're working on right now.
The more users, the more resources, the sooner they get there.
@sigismundninja
I really like #Apertus too, but its not "cutting edge" and you need to use it via LM Studio so far. But it's European and open for everyone to use.
I wanted to create a LibreOffice plugin for Apertus. That would be a dream and offer an alternative for simple office usage instead of CoPilot and OpenAI. Maybe a plugin for LeChat too? But I haven't gotten around to that... đ