When I first watched War Games (1983) I thought "wow, so weird, not only they had terrible password management, but their test 'AI' system was directly linked to the prod".

Ha-ha. 

@nina_kali_nina

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When I first watched I was a little envious of his IMSAI 8080 system, though the S-100 stuff was starting to look a little old even then.

Edit: The War Games IMSAI 8080 survives!

https://www.imsai.net/the-wargames-imsai/

WOPR did not...

The WarGames IMSAI – The Official IMSAI Home Page

@nina_kali_nina When I first watched War Games (1983) I had a VIC-20 and a huge case of envy! Deploying to prod was the best part of 40 years away. Better times! :)
@karyxdragon @nina_kali_nina I started wirh a vic-20, 3.5k of memory. and ahl's basic computer games. good times. I do oppose the rest of the sentiment, though, deploy to production is a liberating thing, everybody should deploy to production. power to the people. :D
@nina_kali_nina you play an imsim with stealing computer passwords off unlocked tablets strewn carelessly everywhere as a central exploration mechanic and it looks silly. then ha-ha

@nina_kali_nina So much movie hacking where someone just twiddles a few things and breaks in. Or an AI is defeated with a logic paradox. “That’s not how that works!” I’d scream at the screen.

Turns out that is how it works, reality just needed some time to catch up.

@bytex64 @nina_kali_nina "Twiddles?"

Ask me over a 🍺 some time how I found the passwords to a computer in a nuclear power plant. 🤦‍♂️

The answer was easier than "twiddle".

@nina_kali_nina @glyph you were correct then, you couldn't have accounted for how dumb the world has gotten since
@cap_ybarra @nina_kali_nina infosec practices in the era of modems and plaintext TELNET were in fact pretty loose, what is depressing is the “flowers for algernon” shaped arc of the industry’s development

@nina_kali_nina

I really wanted that sort of modem.

I honestly, still do, but I have ENOUGH TECH TOYS. I don't even have a landline at this point...

@Oggie @nina_kali_nina I had one in my office for years. Haven’t been to that building in a while, but I should rescue it if it’s still there.

@ii_infinitum @nina_kali_nina

Honest to god what I 'want' is a sort of faux 'old school' setup in a few ways, and among other things a nice heavy clunker of a landline rotary phone (if it doesnt' weigh at least 7 or 8 lbs and couldn't be used as a murder weapon in a 1940s movie, get out of here), that I can drop onto that cradle which could ping to a pi to open the firewall for that machine, etc.

Just lots of silly retro/fun touches like that.

@Oggie @nina_kali_nina I’d very much like to hang out in the office you describe. I’ve wanted an old school TTY for similar reasons, but the old western union one I found was way too heavy to sneak out.

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Remenber well, how jealous we were about his acoustic modem.

We didn' t even know about things like that.

And about the passwords....

nah, don' even mention it, or I' ll get nuts 😆

@desatyr @nina_kali_nina The only thing unrealistic in War Games are the huge screens and that the computer actually learns.
@nina_kali_nina that can't be happening, right?

@mmu_man from the script:

- General, we know they're fine men, but in a nuclear war we can't afford to have missiles lying dormant in those silos because those men refuse to turn the keys when the computers tell 'em to!

- You mean when the president orders them to.

- The president will probably follow the computer war plan. That's a fact!

I wept T_T

@nina_kali_nina "We built Joshua, from the hit film 'Don't Build Joshua'."
@nina_kali_nina Well, they didn't want to get left behind.
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And some researcher had enough access to run a personal project directly on prod.

@nina_kali_nina

Released 1983-06-03. Of course, a Friday.

@nina_kali_nina Just let em cook.

That's a good film too.

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Actually…. as in admin admin?

@xs4me2 no, just some random name

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Louvre's video surveillance system password was "Louvre"…

Can’t make stuff like this up…

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@xs4me2 @nina_kali_nina if only they'd thought to use Louvre1

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Me, today: You connected WHAT to an MCP service!?

@brewski @nina_kali_nina the Master Control Program is meant to control everything

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@nina_kali_nina joke's on the entire world :(
@[email protected] still cannot get my head around the idea of "negotiating" with a computer and gaslighting it with natural language, as a real hacking technique
I wonder: is there/will there be a smashing the stack for fun and profit type equivalent for jailbreaking ai or is it..too intuitive for people to want a foundation of why it works? Or is that foundation more difficult when we dont really know *how* any of ai works at a low level
@nina_kali_nina Welcome to War Games 2026 🫠
@nina_kali_nina Dabney Coleman played the first tech bro.
@nina_kali_nina That movie was the reason my cousin was not allowed to have a modem on his Commodore 64.

@nina_kali_nina

I figure there was only one computer - the computer. Not like today with a virtual machine on any lever close by to test stuff.

I think this was how things where at the time, also in reality at The Swedish Social Insurance Agency and their Bull Cobol machines - you coded in prod and just solved the thing where it was needed.
I recall this from a tour I had some 20 years ago when I was an employee but 20 years is a long time to mess upp memories so I might be wrong.

@nina_kali_nina

Indeed, I would piss upon a spark plug if I thought it would improve the situation.

@nina_kali_nina in clear and present danger (1994) they also have terrible password management
@nina_kali_nina
Also, a lot of the "hacking" the kid did was barely hacking. It was more just sneaking into the drawer at the office and reading the password from a piece of paper. Still a security violation, but not "hacking" in any sort of strict sense.
@nina_kali_nina @Phracker2Art the autodialong to find the game company to breach at the beginning was the most hacking in the whole movie
@0x00string @nina_kali_nina
I recognized it pretty much immediately as a war dialer, which is the equivalent of using a port scanner today
@Phracker2Art @nina_kali_nina yep! which i always thought "yeah, thats some real boring hacking there!" but then it went all thriller movie lol. still one of my top 5 favorite computer movies though 
@0x00string @nina_kali_nina
Actually, I would say the coolest hacking thing he did was when he digitally picked the lock to escape from the room he was being held in at that government building. That was more impressive to me than any of the other stuff.
@nina_kali_nina @Phracker2Art OH SHIT I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT! yes, hard agree that is the best hacking in the movie, and still pretty realistic tbh
@nina_kali_nina Good point. It's more realistic than I thought.