Which type of hateful discourse on the #Fediverse do you find most off-putting?
Big tech platforms often amplify conflict and outrage. The Fediverse aims to be different, but some recurring behaviors can still discourage people from participating.
Which one bothers you the most?
| App wars (e.g. Mastodon vs Misskey, etc.) | |
| Against Bluesky and non-tech savyys ("normies") | |
| Hostility toward any use of AI | |
| Other (please, comment) |
I created a similar poll on Reddit in the subs of the Fediverse and Mastodon:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/1rzkve6/what_kind_of_posts_on_mastodon_tend_to_turn/
It's interesting to compare the answers and results from here with those from Reddit polls. Some people seem to find the very act of creating the question and choosing sources of hate comments problematic.
@everton137 I personally like them all, also that's not what hate speech mean.
Hate speech is a thing the admins of your instance fail to moderate under the guise of free speech.
@NatureMC actually, I discovered this term after reading several replies to my posts blaming "normies", mainly when I raise questions about the Fediverse:
"Normies is a colloquial term used to describe individuals who tend to align with mainstream users and popular culture rather than niche communities or specialized subcultures."
https://themoneywiki.com/topics/normies/
Sometimes I few its use in a derrogatorry tone.
@everton137 Thanks for explaining! (My bubble may be "weird", but I never met so many wonderful tolerant non-normies like here!)
@NatureMC Recently, when I mentioned Bluesky or the idea of bringing more people to the Fediverse, I received some angry responses about people who had decided to use Bluesky.
I know lovely people who didn't get used to the Fediverse and now use Bluesky, and I'm upset by such a high level of intolerance towards others' choices.
I was going to create a post about such responses, but I was tired. Hate is generally exhausting.
@Sibshops do you mean that the Fediverse is the same as Mastodon?!
Kidding. I agree, that's also annoying.
@mackuba I didn't know most of those examples. I'm curious now and will check them out. I've already seen criticism of the Bridgy Fed, which I think is good.
I usually invite people to use Mastodon, but some prefer Bluesky, we can still interact, though.
@everton137 Searchtodon here: https://searchtodon.social/Adventures-in-Mastoland.html
Content Nation: https://wedistribute.org/2024/03/contentnation-mastodons-toxicity/
Holos mentioned here: https://connectedplaces.online/reports/fr154-search-and-community/
Bridgy Fed github comments thread from the launch announcement (where at some point the dev was told he's acting like a rapist by building the bridge and should go to therapy): https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/835
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@mackuba "the dev was told he's acting like a rapist by building the bridge and should go to therapy"
WTF.
@everton137 I see much less outrage in Mastodon than on other social medias because my feed here is more tech, less personal and political.
I mean outrage in general, of which some is justified and some used as excuse for hate and bigotry. Much less of either type here than elsewhere.
@everton137 Hate against persons and minorities, racism. Others saying, it would not exist because they don't see/believe it.
Unfortunately, I don't find it again but a moderator of Mastodon wrote a very insightful thread why #hateSpeech is often hidden for others: These people work with "followers only" function.
But here's a good technical overview about the problems and moderator's work: https://community.hachyderm.io/blog/2024/08/12/hachyderms-introduction-to-mastodon-moderation-part-1/
@jabgoe2089 Recently, I saw an announcement that a prominent European politician had joined Mastodon. Several comments were full of hate and related to some of the options above.
I actually have no idea what "the correct way to communicate" means. I saw a reply to my post criticising people who try to teach others the 'correct way' to communicate on Mastodon, which I have noticed happening occasionally.
For example, how many times have I seen people insisting that someone should add hashtags to their posts? I use hashtags myself, but I also follow some very interesting profiles that don't use them at all.
@jabgoe2089 I must confess I laughed out loud by reading this comment on Reddit. The person supposed I created the poll because I'm having troubles on how to use Mastodon, so it was decided to explain the correct way to use it.😂
I created the same poll on Reddit to compare the results and comments with the poll on my microblog.
@everton137 Honestly, for me it's this idea that "the #Fediverse" is so different from other #SocialMedia in the first place. Other social media has the same issues you mentioned. The big difference is those are owned by right-wing creeps pushing xenophobic fascist messages through algorithms.
That is the message we need to be spreading rather than wasting time (imo) with "the Fediverse culture". That isn't some fixed thing; it just depends on who you interact with, like in real life.
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