Steve Troughton-Smith
This is the time post-WWDC where I try to get all my projects building to a shippable state again with the new Xcode after working on experimental tangents and rabbit holes for months 😅 I think everything in my dev version of @pastelapp works again now, but I can't remember what I broke.
I'm doing a pass at a bunch of little things, shuffling some bits around, updating iconography etc
An awful lot of bringup for an existing iOS view controller on visionOS involves three things:
• Change your background color
• Round out your shapes/set your button configurations to the system rounded style
• Add roundrect hover styles
Here's a before/after on my wallpaper generator; just a handful of one-line changes
I built this palette-generation feature two years ago for @pastelapp, hoping that Apple would ship LLM APIs I could use instead of GPT-3. Womp womp.
Here's hoping tomorrow brings some change here…
Finally trying Apple's Foundation Models for palette generation, side by side with what I generated with ChatGPT.
The first image is the prompt "Planets of the Solar System" with Apple's on-device LLM, the second image is the same prompt using GPT-3.5 as of 2 years ago.
It can certainly do what I need it to do; whether the results are any good is an open question. I think it's inoffensive, and harmless, at the very least, so maybe I can move forward with it
Enabling streaming, you can see that the Foundation Models API is slow — I would say alarmingly slow — on M1 hardware. I'm not even sure what kind of optimization I might be able to do to speed this up, as it's seemingly purely on the token generation side 🤔
It's going to take more than a little care and attention before you start sprinkling this all over your apps, that's for sure. Good to know
Still a long way to go, but here's a before/after on Pastel on macOS 26 as of the current build.
During development, you spend so much time looking at the new design that you kinda forget how it used to look
With today's work out of the way, I think Pastel's iOS 26 update is done for Mac and for iPhone. The iPad build is blocked by my earlier radar, and I haven't figured out a mitigation strategy yet, but we're nearly there
I've started the TestFlight process for Pastel for iOS and macOS 26. There are some known issues on iOS, including a severe hang, but most things are in place now, and there are still slots available 😄
This *is* a nice API!
The next minor version of @pastelapp will support exporting color palettes to Pixelmator Pro (on the Mac, at least, as they don't support that on iOS)
Update: now available!
Venturing out into the Great Unknown, I have finally made the switch from single-purchase to subscriptions in @pastelapp, for new customers, after talking about it for years.
I should have done it years ago, but the risk of the floor falling out from under me scared me off. Better late than never!
I'm much better prepared to handle the initial financial shock today, and as I've migrated everything to StoreKit 2 I've been really impressed by how easy Apple has made it to implement subscriptions
Danny MöschWhy subscriptions? A one-time purchase revenue graph, even for a moderately successful app, looks like this. Yet work required only increases in complexity — Pastel has had 40 multiplatform updates since it launched in 2020, including two system UI redesigns, and a whole new OS (visionOS).
One-time purchases just aren't sustainable, unless the product itself is also one-and-done — and that's just not possible on a moving target like Apple's OSes. Revenue can't be inversely proportional to time
I've tried to make Pastel's subscription pricing as unobtrusive as possible. As it stands:
• Existing paid users are grandfathered in and don't have to subscribe
• New users can subscribe for $2/mo or $10/year, with two-week free trials
• If you are on an OS version that I know won't be supported going forward (though I haven't decided to drop support yet), you won't see subscription options at all, only the legacy one-time purchase (now $20)
TL;DR, if you already own the app, you won't notice
All of this is subject to change in the future, but I have no plans to do so. And this model, by and large, is what I will be doing with @broadcastsapp with Broadcasts 4.
There is so much I'd like to be able to do in both apps that requires investment, and the only way I can justify it is if the revenue line is going in the right direction, otherwise that time needs to go into new products. I would like to do both things! So Pastel gets to be my test case, and we'll see how it goes
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K. Langoso 🇧🇷🔴🐷🇳🇬🏡😷True.
That said, I surely would like more software to be “done”. Like, you’d pay for that year’s version, expect only updates for that calendar year.
Want another year of support or new features? Pay for the upgrade, at a discount or not.
I remember some iOS apps with that business model: “buy” and get a year of updates. Want another year? That’s an IAP.
I’m not totally averse to subscriptions, I subscribe to a few. But some apps don’t present a clear case for this model to its customers.
Janne OjaniemiIn this I can not subscribe after the first year and keep the app as it is at the end of the timeframe I’ve paid for.
If, say, 3 years down the road the app ain’t working or gets a feature I want, I’ll pay for that year only, not the previous two in which I didn’t want/needed it changed.
Mathias af JochnickWeird. I clearly remember Agenda (https://apps.apple.com/br/app/agenda-notas-mais-calend%C3%A1rio/id1370289240) advertising this.
That said, 1) it should be possible; 2) I’m not limiting my argument to App Store apps only, but all apps.
I’m basically asking for more apps being “bought”, like the norm before app stores. E.G. Adobe’s apps before the subscription model, like CS6. This is still possible.
Just checked: it’s still like that:
“Agenda does offer extra premium features that require an In App Purchase, and that make the app even more powerful. If you decide to purchase the upgrade, you permanently unlock all *current* premium features across all of your devices. Each of them is described in detail below.
Additionally, *any new premium features we add while you are subscribed is also permanently unlocked, even if you decided to cancel your subscription*. What is yours stays yours!”
Emphasis are mine.
Get All Features
Going Premium Agenda comes out of the box with a great set of features, completely free. There are no time or trial limits. You can use it forever, at no cost. Agenda does offer extra premium features that require an In App Purchase, and that make the app even more powerful. If you decide to purchase the upgrade, you permanently unlock all current premium features across all of your devices. Each of them is described in detail below. Additionally, any new premium features we add while you are ...
@stroughtonsmith @2happy1sad that “everyone” includes those that stopped their subscriptions? Because that’s what I was getting at: subscriptions are the worst for a lot of apps that don’t present clear benefits to its users.
Many users just want to go back to the pre-App Store ways: you “buy” an app, it just stays as when you bought it, saving for critical bugs for a reasonable (1 year minimum, 3 at best for most apps) time.
Barring some *really* cheap or critical apps, the only benefit I see for users with subscriptions is when one’s use is sporadic, when the total spending with monthly/weekly subs is less than the yearly or lifetime pricing, and if (**big “if”**) one can know this would be the case beforehand.
@stroughtonsmith @2happy1sad examples, *in my usage patterns*
* Streaming video apps. I’ll subscribe to some for just one month when a desired show season ends.
* Adobe’s: When I get a freelancing gig (about one each year), I’ll subscribe for one month.
* Iconfactory’s *Tapestry*: its monthly subscription is cheap and I’m still deciding if it’s for me. Seems like it is. Now I need to decide if I’ll spring for an yearly subscription, as the “forever” is expensive for me.
I’m in Brazil; every app/sub costs 5-10x here, because of our low purchasing power comparing with the USA or the EU. I’m a senior professional in the top 10% earnings bracket in Brazil and I make about 20k USD per year; my take home pay is about 7 USD/hour, minimum wage in the USA.
@2happy1sad @stroughtonsmith That’s not what I’m asking for either.
The way the Agenda team does it is close enough for me, and, IMO, for the vast majority of people wanting something that isn’t a subscription.
Kirk Reynolds
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Götz Hoffart@stroughtonsmith @gereon I hear^Wread you.
Nevertheless, OTOH, if I would need to subscribe for every utility I paid for in the past, I would need another tool to keep track of my subscriptions.
And as all subscriptions are different, I would need to manage these cases, at least:
- subscription expired? no new updates/features, but security/bugfixes, otherwise have fun with the software
- subscription expired? no security/bugfixes, but software keeps running. YOLO
- subscription expired? its license is checked against a license server, you lose access to your software (and maybe data created with it)
- subscription expired? the backend services somewhere else stop working, rendering the software useless
- what is this $2.95 cost a month on my credit card/Google Pay/whatever from CoolCompanyNameThatsImpossibleToGoogle Inc. ???
And now guess how well my dad or my aunt could distinguish this and decide.
That’s why I avoid subscriptions whereever I can. I tend to lose track of ’em. Either I pay too much, not using it. Or I lose the stuff bound to it. Either way, I’m unhappy.
YMMV, my arguments are not bound/related to _your_ software, just generic ramblings.
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Lokjo - a European online mapYou could keep the one-time purchase active for security updates, but offer newer features for purchase.
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Brandon Butler
Darren@stroughtonsmith What about paying for updates. Like a base model that you can buy, then if you want continued updates you can either subscribe to that or pay to get updated to the last major release?
-Edit: it seems like I am not the only one thinking of this
Peter N Lewis
Betalogue
Ivan Pavlov@stroughtonsmith I could not agree more.
I switched Parcel to subscription back in 2013 while grandfathering exiting premium users as a lifetime purchase. Subscription is the only reason why the app is still up and running.
Also makes sense to have an affordable price, way too often I see $50/year as a default subscription price.
Thomas TempelmannAnd honestly, I'm also looking into adding Pro features to give me a revenue boost.