SpaceX's highly paid lawyers responded to the hundreds of comments and oppositions submitted to the FCC in one letter, that basically shows they didn't actually read our petitions to deny. And now we astronomers and dark sky advocates who are volunteering our time have to do a shitload more work to respond to their non-response. By Friday.

Fuck you, SpaceX.

I am feeling seriously depressed about this, and also Reflect Orbital's no doubt similarly infuriating response that's due in a couple of days. I'm not sure what I expected, I guess I'm just not cynical enough to deal with current reality yet. Kessler Syndrome, here we come!!

Yesterday I borrowed a book off @astrokiwi.bsky.social's bookshelf written by @annaleen. Feeling slightly homesick for Saskatchewan after a few weeks in New Zealand, I was DELIGHTED to find that the book begins with "The Last Saskatchewan Pirate" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuGGNsE3_8Y and I'm totally going to channel that Saskatchewan pirate energy into the talks, writing, and meetings I have today fighting satellite pollution.

Aaaarrrr, Matey! Get it? Métis?

The Arrogant Worms - The Last Saskatchewan Pirate

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Grant me the (Saskatchewan pirate?) strength to not throw my laptop out the fucking window as I try to write parts of the text for the American Astronomical Society's response to SpaceX's infuriating, arrogant, ignorant, irresponsible non-response.
HOLY FUCK THIS IS SO HARD IN ONE PARAGRAPH THE SHITBALLS SAY THEY'LL COORDINATE WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES TO STUDY ATMOSPHERIC EFFECTS OF REENTRIES AND IN THE NEXT THE FUCKWEASELS VEHEMENTLY DENY THAT ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS APPLY TO THEM AT ALL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THEY SAY THEY'LL MEET MAG 7 RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN REACHED THIS WITH STARLINK AND THAT WOULD BE PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE WITH ISS-SIZED SOLAR PANELS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MAG 7 SATELLITES WOULD ACTUALLY COMPLETELY FUCKING DESTROY ASTRONOMY ANYWAY THESE FUCKING AWFUL FUCKWEASEL LIARS AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Wow New Zealand takes fire drill very seriously (which is good). Back to ranting....
INFRARED!! Literally their whole response to infrared is "we'll work with NSF" and "we'll follow the highly successful VM7 framework" which is... I think the visual mag 7 recommendation. WHICH THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FUCKING MET WITH STARLINK SATELLITES THAT ARE WAY SMALLER THAN THESE FUCKING DATA CENTERS
DO I REALLY HAVE TO READ THE ORBITAL SAFETY SECTION? I'm not sure if it's going to make me want to throw up or chuck my computer out the window.

WOW SOME SHADE THROWN AT COMPETITORS "In stark contrast to NASA’s productive suggestions, would-be SpaceX competitors like Viasat and Amazon recycle the same tired arguments..."

ALSO YOU FUCKING IGNORE EVERY SUGGESTION FROM ASTRONOMERS AND WE DON'T REPRESENT NASA YOU STUPID FUCKS

OH IT GETS BETTER "Some petitioners—primarily would-be competitors such as Amazon/Blue Origin and Viasat—advance
their standard anticompetitive tropes trying to fearmonger about orbital congestion, operational preclusion, and potential collision risk in opposing SpaceX’s application"

This would be hilarious if I wasn't also COMPLETELY TERRIFIED about orbital congestion and collision risks...

"If Amazon had employed even basic math, it would realize that SpaceX’s proposed system would inhabit only 0.005% of the 1.1 trillion cubic kilometers of space across the 500–2,000 km orbits"

YES BUT IT'S TRAVELLING THROUGH THAT SPACE AT 7KM PER SECOND AND YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW HOW ORBITS WORK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ok I need to take a break from reading this or I'm actually going to break something.

@sundogplanets no, encourage them to park their satellites close together to save space! One metre sounds like a nice round number, put them that far apart.

Kessler? Wasn't he in some cooking show?

@moz @sundogplanets Kessler? I hardly know ’er!

But uh yeah, this a complete clusterfuck. Soon literally, IN SPAACE.

@sundogplanets SpaceX/Starlink is the Lime Scooters of space. They just park their shit wherever, and the rest of society shoulders the cost of their negligence.

@sundogplanets You may know all about this, but read this post:

https://mindly.social/@cazabon/116246376103901190

C. (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] It seems more likely that it's just Musk hyping his companies for the IPO that's coming, similar to the shenanigans he's indulged in with them buying each other etc over the last year or two. "Orbital data center" never made sense on paper. A big communications satellite might have a total power budget of 20 kW. With individual modern GPU racks at 100 kW or even 250 kW (and they're talking about more in the near future), powering that load in space gets tricky - you'd need a ton of solar panels. But the bigger problem is thermals. Waste heat is a big problem in terrestrial datacenters, but in space, there's no atmosphere to carry heat away by convection or conduction. You can't use evaporative chillers. You can't use A/C, because that just moves the heat around and makes more of it in the process. All you've got is radiative cooling from the dark side of the satellite. And that's not nearly good enough to deal with the megawatts of heat even a small collection of racks would put out. "A million datacenters orbiting the earth" is pure fantasy.

Mindly.Social

@sundogplanets

Do, please please please, take a break and look at some beautiful New Zealand scenery.

@sundogplanets may I suggest breaking SpaceX?

@sundogplanets

The same can be said of projectiles fired from a gun, really.

🤷‍♂️

@sundogplanets The 33 cars in the Indianapolis 500 comprise only 0.5% of the 68,000 m^2 track area they orbit. Therefore they never interfere with each other?

1 Speedway is just over 4km long and about 17m wide for or 68K m^2.
2 Typically 33 cars
3 The cars are nearly 5m x 2m.

Indianapolis Motor Speedway - Wikipedia

@ctwardy This is a fantastic comparison and I may actually use it in the text. Thank you!
@sundogplanets I want to apply that logic to other domains. For example cars ! "Cars only use a very small fraction of the troposphere volume, therefore congestion can't be real."
@TofuTheSquirrel @sundogplanets If they weren't shouting with their fingers in their ears that would be a good analogy. Bullets are also good.
But they think they are in fifth grade debate and they just have to "have an argument that supports your statement," whether or not itholds up.
@sundogplanets
This is terrifying. Not only for the orbits, the upper atmosphere and astronomy, but in general. Because one can be certain that these people use the same tactics in many different topics. We just never hear about this, because nobody is yelling about it on Mastodon.
@sundogplanets in a few month the sky is so full with satellites, that sunrays did not reach earth because the metal of the satellites block them. Seems to be a good Plan to stop Climate change..😂
@sundogplanets Given that planes only occupy a tiny tiny proportion of the atmosphere, we do not need to monitor them, right?

@sundogplanets

Elon Musk, while firing an AK47 into a crowded shopping mall, insisted "It's fine. If you'd done basic math you'd realise the bullets only take up 0.005% of the available space in there."

@sundogplanets I love a good spray. You are wonderful. Keep going. Thank you.
@sundogplanets Thank you for doing this work!! It's so hard to create articulate, logical responses to infuriating nonsense. I really appreciate you powering through! Keep the rants coming if they help you! There are supportive strangers on the internet cheering you on 🥳 😡
@sundogplanets you fear monger! wait, fish monger!
@sundogplanets
I am so grateful for your work on this! Thank you!
I just hope it's possible to stop this madness

@sundogplanets the worst part is it's all completely implausible and will never happen, and yet demands all this effort to stop it regardless because it exists to set a precedent that regulation is immaterial and any nonsense is already approved.

Thankyou for your dedication in spite of all this.

@sundogplanets the first "fire drill" in the usa blew me away because they told us it was happening a month ahead of time - not admin / grounds staff, everyone. so people just didn't come in that day.
@sundogplanets
We know they lie.
You need to be hugged by a goat.
I hope you get a safe trip home eventually.

@sundogplanets

... ...

That is not how any of this works.

But once they start running the scam, they really do have incentives to keep it going regardless of the absurdities, don't they?

@sundogplanets Some men just want to watch the world burn ... 🖖
@sundogplanets Because of course laws don't apply. 🤬
@StaceyCornelius @sundogplanets No laws apply: national, international or physics
@sundogplanets pretty standard lawyering. Lots of parallel arguments

@sundogplanets

Deep breaths. Deep breaths. There's always a chance no one will have the fuel to sell them or the first launch triggers a Kessler …

@sundogplanets all of the federal agencies that the current administration has destroyed so there’s very little, if any, capability to address these issues? I think it’s part of the plan to allow anything goes as long as the desired outcome is more money 💰 for the select few.
@sundogplanets We updated our story to note your comments about the light pollution and environmental concerns https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-to-start-small-with-1-million-satellite-plan-pushes-back-on-critics

@PCMag HAHAHA oh wow you linked to my very very angry posts. Well, I hope someone important reads it! (The version I am submitting to the FCC has zero swear words, and in order to do that, I have to put a bunch of swear words up here on social media)

Please reach out if you'd like to do a more formal interview, and thank you for writing about these huge issues!

@sundogplanets

Talk to their insurers. They will listen to their insurers.

@tuban_muzuru Who insures SpaceX and how do I talk to them?

@sundogplanets Entirely predictable though, given how Musk runs Tesla and long ago eliminated their PR department. This aligns with his preference not to discuss or even acknowledge anything he doesn't care to talk about, and to try to control the narrative.

I hope you can eloquently point out all of their flaws so that they have to face up to uncomfortable truths, instead of brushing them aside and getting away with it.

I'm rooting for you!

@sundogplanets @croyle Me too! You've got this! 💪🏽

@sundogplanets

You are doing a very important task which the rest of us are not really able to fully understand.

Please keep on doing it.

Thanks from the current and future generations.

@sundogplanets

as a software developer since the 70s I have been tempted many times, but then admit it isn't the device I want tossed on a highway, the device is quite a wonder of human collaboration!

It usually resolves to some PARTICULAR humans I'd like to toss out there, requiring much more restraint 🤣

Dartboards can be quite cathartic! Or little effigies and a box of pins …

@sundogplanets

I'm very grateful to you for fighting this fight for all of us.

@sundogplanets I hope their arrogance is their downfall and they don't take the rest of us with them.
@sundogplanets @annaleen I know nothing about Saskatchewan, so in my head canon they have pirates on the rivers stealing fertilizer. 😁
I'd love to visit someday.
@Jirikiha @sundogplanets @annaleen likewise. I have known that song for some years. And I know that Saskatchewan is in Canada. And that's all. But I tend to think my partial knowledge could have been worse.
@sundogplanets @UkeleleEric @Jirikiha @annaleen Been there once, the land is so flat it’s the birthplace of flat-earthers! Also pirates are landlocked! 
@sundogplanets Autonomous is a good book.
@sundogplanets @astrokiwi.bsky.social @annaleen about the only thing I know about Saskatchewan is this song. It's speaking of real life events is it not? 😉
@sundogplanets @astrokiwi.bsky.social @annaleen I'll give you that one, since you're a long way from home.