i love how systemd makes boot and shutdown so much slower lmao. especially shutdown.
@siina you should've seen #SysVinit then…
@kkarhan I certainly have seen it. At least it didn't have its tendrils touching every conceivable part of the system like systemd likes to try and do.

@siina the nice part with #systemD is that you have the flexibility to add or remove things.

  • It's closer to a "suite" rather than one fat binary (unlike #emacs!).
    • Obviously the partsbdo integrate well with each other…

But #systemd, like #Steam, didn't win because they are excellent, but because competition either doesn't exist or is kinda incompetent to a degree…

  • Same with #Xorg: #Wayland is the most mature option and #Xlibre is run by some absolutely abrasive person destroying any goodwill and legitimate argument the once had with their words and actions.
@kkarhan Yeah. I'm not really against systemd or for it, I just want it to work. And for the most part it does, so I don't care if it's on some of my machines.

@siina same for me.

I doodle on some minimalost Linix from time to time but there's nothing wrong with just putting Ubuntu LTS on a machine and not microoptimizing it.