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@randahl

The rationale for the war is weapons of mass destruction 2.0

America and America’s media system fell forward all over again

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @randahl
That doesn't even make sense. With Iraq there was an agreement (forced, but still, it existed) that Iraq was not allowed WMD after the first Iraq war.

There is no such agreement with Iran. Iran has just as much right to have weapons of mass destruction as the US or Israel. If they were honest about WMDs being the reason, they would be going after those two countries.

There used to be one for nuclear weapons specifically, but I seem to recall a certain president tore that one up.

The stated justification is nukes. US intelligence agencies are very clear about this. They don’t have them and they were not pursuing them or anywhere near to having them.

The person who ripped up the agreement was Donald Trump, who just happened to have started a war when they had agreed to full inspections again and other measures

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @randahl
Still bullshit. You can't tear up an agreement and expect the other side to abide by it. Iran has as much right to have nukes as Israel and the US.

And again, if that was the honest reason, they would be going after those two countries.

Intelligence officers inside the United States and I think one of them is just quit over this topic says *Iran* does not have nukes and is not pursuing them.

This is why I’m saying weapons of mass destruction 2.0 because the rationale for invading Iraq was based on a false premise of threat

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @randahl
That does not affect my argument, that it is not a valid reason even if it was true.

Then what is under dispute? Unless you missed the sarcasm in my initial post.

The point of the sarcasm is to say it’s ridiculous because chiefly it’s a lie.

But you wanna tell me I’m wrong somehow I don’t understand the nature of this conversation

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @randahl
Oh. I just re-read my first response, and my "that doesn't even make sense" can be read as your post not making sense. Sorry about that, I meant the WMD argument doesn't make sense.

We don't disagree, we just see them (US govt) being dishonest from two different angles.

Again, sorry for my post being ambiguous as to who is not making sense.

Yeah, no worries. It’s a hazard of text.. we end up vigorously agreeing. :)

It’s just the nature of the beast

CANELA BLANCA Mar 17

@randahl Man, that 41% is higher than I anticipated. 😬

Brian M Knoblock 🇺🇸🇳🇴 🦊Mar 17

@randahl @christopherbrown

It’s in line with the Prez Approval numbers, so not all that surprising to me.

CANELA BLANCA Mar 17

@syferdet @randahl I suppose even as an American I am having cognitive dissonance that that many people still support That Guy. It is insanely bizarre to me.

Verna Mar 17

@randahl Eh don't worry about it, Trump also has Palantir and 23 warehouses for any domestic dissent.

Brian M Knoblock 🇺🇸🇳🇴 🦊Mar 17

@Verna @randahl

Its Rex 84 all over again. This time they're actually implementing it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

Rex 84 - Wikipedia

D.EJE.D Mar 17

@randahl 41% is still very high, though. But again, we need to understand that this man was voted into presidency.

@CAWguy has moved Mar 17

@randahl 41% is an absurdly high number. Much like Trump’s polling numbers, many of us non-Americans are incapable of understanding the level of support for this regime.

swggrkllr3rd Mar 17

@randahl It's going down like a drumpf Casino.

Stoneface Vimes Mar 17

@randahl "hey hey don bj
How many kids did you kill today"

Randall Lee Mar 17

@randahl I'm going to bet that the majority of that 41% are low information voters that are trump cultists.

Martin Seeger Mar 17

@randahl If it were 11%, that would be good news.

But 41%?

That shows that a significant part in the U.S. has completely lost contact to reality and is happily slurping MAGA cool aid.

Alexander Goeres 𒀯 Mar 17

@Randahl Fink landing marines in iran?? are they really that crazy?

el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦Mar 17

@randahl
too many. really. too many.