Adrianna TanGerman tourist sued a New York taqueria for salsa that was too spicy. Judge says ‘the spice is often the point’
He should keep this up and keep suing people, he will become American in no time
I hope he never goes to Thailand
To be clear, the ‘a woman sued McDonald’s over hot coffee!’ Case was a legit case where she deserved all of that and more
Carolyn@skinnylatte She DID actually need hospitalization for 3rd degree burns, needed skin grafts.
"The attorneys...presented the jury with expert testimony that 190 °F (88 °C) coffee may produce third-degree burns (where skin grafting is necessary) in about three seconds and 180 °F (82 °C) coffee may produce such burns in about 12 to 15 seconds.[14] Lowering the temperature to 160 °F (71 °C) would increase the time for the coffee to produce such a burn to 20 seconds..." --wiki
So she had cause...
@skinnylatte Maybe he had gotten some inspiration for his lawsuit from this, thinking American courts just handed out money. But HER lawyers actually gathered evidence, visiting other places that served coffee, to measure temperatures, consulted with experts on burn. They worked to prove cause.
Matt Blaze@CStamp @skinnylatte Indeed. The 2011 documentary “Hot Coffee” is worthwhile, going in to depth about the case and how it was unjustly spun beyond recognition into a right-wing “tort reform” poster child.
Charles U. Farley@CStamp @skinnylatte The irony is that she was only asking for her medical costs to be covered. But McDonald's wouldn't even do that, so it went to trial and they lost way more.
jgjl 🇪🇺@CStamp @skinnylatte as someone coming from a different culture I do not understand this argument. Coffee is made with boiling, I.e., 100°C water. How can you sure someone because that’s what they did.. and it’s not even boiling temperature any more at this point?
@jgjl @skinnylatte Because it's hot enough to cause 3rd degree burns in seconds. Coffee in most places is not sold at boiling point because spilling is possibly dangerous. See above.
@CStamp @skinnylatte I get that. But you would still expect the coffee to potentially be at boiling temperature, hence my not understanding why everyone seems to agree that she was totally right.
@jgjl @skinnylatte In a paper cup? I'd expect it to be hot, but not too hot to hold or worry about spilling. I would be really surprised to be handed something at boiling temperature.
Heather 👻@CStamp @[email protected] @skinnylatte They weren't even paper cups back in those days, were they? They were insulating styrofoam cups that kept heat in but also kept you from feeling the heat from the outside.
And anyway you shouldn't be brewing your coffee at 100C, it's more around 85-95C.
@CStamp @skinnylatte It's funny how soon we forget how things were "back in the day" that was just ephemera like disposable cups from McDonalds.
Peter Brown@jgjl @CStamp @skinnylatte coffee shouldn’t be made with water at 100° C.
Most coffee machines will operate around 90° and by the time it’s in the cup for a few moments it’s probably down to 80°.
Most coffee machines will operate around 90° and by the time it’s in the cup for a few moments it’s probably down to 80°.
@peterbrown @CStamp @skinnylatte I make it at home with boiling water, works great. James Hoffman approved btw.
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Sindarina, Edge Case Detective@skinnylatte Yeah. I only learned this later, and before that it was just an example of how litigious the US is, but it was a deliberate choice on the part of McDonalds to serve the coffee that hot for some silly internal optimisation slash money saving reason, IIRC.
Rainer Zufall@skinnylatte Incredible
Ethan Marcotte@skinnylatte —well now I’m back in
Harsh Shandilya@skinnylatte truly a naturalized resident
@skinnylatte Oh, wow.
“Mr. Manz, an engineer and a part-time law student, filed all three suits without legal representation.”
A fool for a client. ;)
fritzoidsI'm wondering whether he was trying to get something exceptional on his CV for when he is done with his law studies.
ThomasFor such people my granny had a saying, "Send him off to the woods for two weeks", 'Send him off the wilderness for two weeks.'
Bridge&Tunnel Jeff@skinnylatte That guy made me briefly side with Walmart and the NYPD and I do not like it.
ifrauding@jf_718 @skinnylatte
Thats a feature of many Germans: they are the worse option when you have to choose between them and something else. 🥶
Thats a feature of many Germans: they are the worse option when you have to choose between them and something else. 🥶
Solitha@skinnylatte Please consider not using archive-dot links.
They were found to be using visitors to power DDOS attacks, as well as caught altering archived materials.
archive.org is the only legitimate one I know of, the Internet Archive.
Chris@skinnylatte I mean for a short trip to sample the culture he did:
✅️ see statue of liberty
✅️ eat some spicy tacos
✅️ file several frivolous lawsuits
gotta admire the guy's efficiency
NadiaPurge@skinnylatte one has to ask why he thought connecting to public wi-fi at a Wal-Mart was a good idea.
It's giving incel manosphere energy as well.
@skinnylatte well, if in the USA, do as the locals do. I think he is a great example of someone adjusting to the local culture when on vacation!
Joe Pallas@skinnylatte I was confused at first—why would his non-US phone not work with the Walmart WiFi? It turns out Walmart’s “free” WiFi required him to give them a phone number and wouldn’t take non-US numbers (crappy UI that doesn’t even let you enter a country code, I’d bet).
Lawsuit was definitely stupid, but Walmart is definitely going to abuse that data.
Alda Vigdís@skinnylatte A hotel room at Times Square? — I bet he complained about the noise.