Vissso
if github had an outage
and was offline for 48 hours
what would catch fire?
if us-east-1 went offline for a week, what happens?
cuz you know
im just curious
how many companies are you aware of that had "oh fuck someone actually blew up the datacenter" in their threat model or DR recovery efforts?
how many are like "whatevs, our shit is in the cloud and all the contract language has us well protected against lawsuits if shit goes down"?
how many do you think realize that attitude towards technology solves for "the lawsuits after the fact" but does absolutely zero for business continuity?
BobsShadow@Viss I tried to drill into my last group that Disaster Recovery mean you have a USB drive with an OS iso and brand new servers with nothing on them in a location that's no longer your lab.
And the local wiki on another drive with any security certificates and the build/release system needs to be built from scratch with just that.
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Lemniscate@Viss Back in the day, I worked somewhere that had a data center approach for almost all the services that could deal with one of the sites abruptly vanishing if it came to it. And one of the biggest problems we had was with software vendors that couldnât seem to conceive of this and struggled to implement measures we needed to support that.
The company wrote most of its own software, but boy, did we have to have some arguments about the stuff we didnât write. Had one vendor - who we did not select for purchase after this behaviour! - very snottily tell us âyou donât need thatâ when we asked about a feature that supported some data redundancy we DID very much need.
@Viss Of course, then came acquisitions and âthe cloudâ and a seeping away of people who knew and cared how to do stuff right. I expect whatâs left of that environment today, if anything, is very fragile.
Doofus Canadensis@Viss $lastco did have this in the dr plans.
Because the asphalt plant across the street had an accident years before that damaged property. So yeah DR site is out of country and plans have been tested with low trust that cloud services are available.
Because the asphalt plant across the street had an accident years before that damaged property. So yeah DR site is out of country and plans have been tested with low trust that cloud services are available.
ghosts 
evilstevie@Viss my favourite dr scenario included that the primary dc was under a flight path. and *all* of IT was within yards of that dc.
the COO could not wrap his head around why my planning included non-IT-folks levels of documentation in case, you know, plane+dc interaction.
still they went cloudy since then so it's all safe from harm and outages now /s
RayâGolden Retriever WhispererâđInsights@Viss there are also the chaps with access to a US military base who stole four drones from a warehouse. Caught on camera. Theyâve disappeared. FBI says ânothing to worry aboutâ.
Iâm normally in the âfalse flag is a conspiracy theoryâ camp but with these psychopaths in charge these days, at this point anything short of the U.S. launching an ICBM at Sacramento (because Newsom hurt his feelings) has a modicum of plausibility.
Simon Zerafa (Status: 
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I wonder if there will be in the not to distant future.
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Mike Spooner@Viss A week more than usual?