@cainmark asks:

Q6. Anyone else have trouble navigating from city to country (urban to rural) & the reverse? On the road, w/ no paths available, when the shoulders disappear.

My closest calls have all been on the "outskirts" of a city, just past suburbs, before fully becoming country.

Anyone have ideas on how to traffic engineer that to stop being a problem? Speed limits don't help when people constantly speed over them.

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@ascentale @cainmark @bikenite A6. I haven't thought of this specifically all that much because lots of city infrastructure isn't great, either.

I think about it more when walking - there are county areas in LA like Altadena where there are no sidewalks. Some residents in wealthier parts seem to argue against non-car infra, I guess fearing making it easier for any "great unwashed" to come to their neighborhoods.

If the only infra kept up is car infra, take the lane. #BikeNite

@ascentale @cainmark @bikenite A6 (cont'd) I realize I've made a behavioral answer to your traffic engineering question. However, if traffic engineering is the solution - then they should just put proper sidewalks and separated cycle infrastructure in. That's the solution.

The way to get them to do it can be long. Building coalitions, showing up to local gov't meetings over & over, etc.

What helps there is wonks making the issues & solutions clear to regular folks in plain language #BikeNite

@ascentale @cainmark @bikenite Do outreach to affected communities (in their languages). Make meeting places and times accessible. Listen to people who have quibbles to see if they have a point you should pay attn to (rather than being people not to be in coalition with).

Keep building coalition. Make meetings fun & rewarding so ppl keep showing up. Keep working to make it clear to local pols that they won't get re-elected without making your changes. #BikeNite