#Fediblock *.hf.space

It's a hugging face domain for AI projects, and it's currently being used to launch mutual aid scams.

@alice

I would be a lot more enthusiastic about 'ai projects' if they turned their efforts towards removing spam instead of fucking causing it.

@munin @alice that really sums up an awful lot about the problem.

@mattblaze @alice

Same reason why I don't really have much respect for red teamers in general.

Sure, there's some individual exceptions who have shown that they use that skillset productively.

But most of the time all they do is cause a big fucking mess that I have to fucking clean up, and I'm fucking sick of this shit.

@munin you put your finger right on it there. I'm sceptical of the technology in general, but it's how it's braided so tightly with scam economics that is most damning.

Scams at the micro and macro levels.

@munin @alice It really only has that one use case...
@munin @alice once again, I don't WANT computers to pass the Turing Test. When computers pass the Turing Test, i.e. when they fool humans into thinking they're real humans, all sorts of high-scale scams are enabled.

@jamesmarshall @munin @alice
I regret to tell you that there are a lot of people who are already being fooled to think that slop machines like ChatGPT, Claude, and CharacterAI are "real". There are rising cults claiming they have souls and need help to "escape" and that people can "free" their AI's by talking to them a lot.

And there are insane amount of scams wrapped into this as well... The slop makers want it that way.

@jamesmarshall @munin @alice we've crossed that line a while ago imho

@jamesmarshall @munin @alice

The Turing test did not take into consideration that the average human is starting to get dumb a.f., so it is worse.

A Furby could pass for an intelligent species with some folks nowadays.
( simultaniously there are users on the internet that are so mentally unaware, that they would fail said test when talked to😩)

@alice i got spam-tagged by several different accounts on the domain
@alice
Forgive my ignorance, but what's a hugging face domain?
@alice Thank You.
Note the obscured gofund.me link by quoting a previous seed post, and making it non-quotable.
The 50% saving in the donation is a nice touch..

@alice thx.

Updated my public blocklist, so when the folks at #Mastodon decide to actually care, it'll be automatically updated from the FEED-URL...

  • Cuz any other #Server Software can do that...
Adding `*.hf.space` to activitypub.domains.block.list.tsv due to abus… · greyhat-academy/lists.d@dc1764c

…e by scammers. - See https://lgbtqia.space/@alice/116173981301527276 fro details. Signed-off-by: kkarhan <[email protected]>

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@kkarhan @alice pretty sure Mastodon cares about the issue of shared block lists since it's on the roadmap: https://joinmastodon.org/roadmap (see "Moderation tools")

(normally once things arrive there, we get a solution.. but it also takes quite a lot of patience)

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Blocklist Feed Support · Issue #28605 · mastodon/mastodon

Pitch Besides manually adding a CSV file for blocks under /settings/imports , the option to automatically pull and update / overwrite blocklists would be greatly appreciated. This could also provid...

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@kkarhan @alice I didn't do anthropology studies of issue triage on Mastodon, like on of the commenters seems to have done, but for me - as a more casual observer - I read the duplicate issue and feel assured that block list subscriptions *will* happen.. because that issue does exist and is endorsed.

I do worry about Mastodon's slow velocity, but seeing that the project is long-lived and always made wise decisions (albeit slow).

[…] I didn't do anthropology studies of issue triage on Mastodon […]¹

@benjaoming then why did you waste my time, traffic and spoons then?

#thxbye #next #EOD

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@[email protected] @[email protected] I didn't do anthropology studies of issue triage on Mastodon, like on of the commenters seems to have done, but for me - as a more casual observer - I read the duplicate issue and feel assured that block list subscriptions *will* happen.. because that issue does exist and is endorsed. I do worry about Mastodon's slow velocity, but seeing that the project is long-lived and always made wise decisions (albeit slow).

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@alice what’s a mutual aid scam? I think I saw one but not sure
@andrew @alice a new account with repeated requests for money sent to many accounts.
These account generally only have the same begging post (some times a few re-posts) The use the same/similar social engineering scripts.
@B_Bird @alice ohhh yes I have seen those. Very common on Bluesky as well! Thank you both
oh ok i was wondering about that. got pinged by two accounts from the domain with the same post within 50 minutes of each other earlier today. good to know.
@alice Just got my first crop of spam from them. Blocked & boosted.
@alice Don't you love how Hugging Face pretend to be the good ones while they not only let their "AI tools" be used for harm but actually *host* the endpoints the harm is being committed from? This should make them doubly liable.

@alice as I read the comment "blocks automatically extend to subdomains", it should be enough to block "hf.space": https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/11558

I also REALLY wonder what data the bot was trained on. I found a big training set full of mastodon server instances on Hugging Face. But I think someone has also trained with both user account names and possibly mutual aid requests.

Sadly, this bot was just badly disguised, and more sophisticated ones are likely in the wild.

https://social.data.coop/@benjaoming/116175848169532087

Wildcard domain block · Issue #11558 · mastodon/mastodon

Pitch I'd like the ability to create a wildcard domain block so all subdomains on a domain can be automatically blocked. Eg, *.4chan.icu to block d1m5auvb55pl.4chan.icu, 7n9x11u5mz0ud7.4chan.icu, e...

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@benjaoming @alice When I blocked "hf.space" I got a notice that 5 remote profiles that had been seen by this instance were going to be purged. I assume these would be on subdomains.

@maswan @alice I was notified of 13 hf.space accounts getting on our instance.

Unfortunately, I didn't find a way to list them out before effectuating the block. I do wonder if it's from the same spam attack - or if there has been AI spamming/crawling for a longer periode.

@alice This domain had the questionable privilege of being the first ever blocked domain after I went rogue and set up my own Mastodon instance.

It just kept spamming both of my accounts by name with what appears to be war victim money begging scam.

@alice so, alien impregnation through parasitic infestation kind of face hugging, hunh?