macOS Tahoe is still full of annoyances like this: a notification inside *System Preferences* that cannot be gotten rid of, and it causes the list to look janky, with weird spacing for the list item and a misaligned "2".

I'd be happy with Classic or Aqua over 'Glass'

@geerlingguy Tahoe is far from one of be better releases from Apple. 😂​
@geerlingguy Yesterday I had to reboot my work MBP, as the Screen Mirroring/Extension dialog stayed on one desktop and could not be closed. Today, while in extended desktop mode (while teaching a class) it refused to move a window between screen, and ended up starting a side by side window tiling, behind another application.

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For a while now Gnome has been "Apple-like" as a Linux desktop (you could call that a criticism of course but I like it)

But I think now you could call it "Apple-like but without the jank". It's weird how MacOS has gone this way, I remember how refined early OS X used to be. When I first used it back in the PowerPC days, it was the smoothest most professional UI experience around by a long shot.

@geerlingguy [zooms in: “add Apple Care”] looks like you can pay to have this one go away. Hehe. Funny how that works.

My current “Software Update Available” notification is properly aligned and it even has less space to the right of the text. I don’t even have a clue about why this would happen.

I’m sure it’ll all make sense when the MacBook with touchscreen comes out. It’ll still have all kinds of issues, but it’ll nominally make sense.

@geerlingguy I think it’s spelled gl’ass. But in all seriousness, glass is not for me. I’ve had to toggle the reduce transparency and increase contrast buttons in settings on my devices to live with it. At least that’s been an option though.
@geerlingguy Man cant' help it but that so smells like slop code...
Platinum ftw!

Although I know people already complained when this replaced the System 7 UI 😉
@geerlingguy Just wait until gnome does that too.
@geerlingguy couple that with memory leaks. Has anyone else encountered the out of memory crap on Tahoe?

@geerlingguy Two things.

1. Nobody is copying Apple anymore. They aren’t leading anything in this space.
2. I don’t want to upgrade my Apple devices at all anymore, and I suspect I’m not alone.

They failed.

@geerlingguy I downgraded from #Tahoe back to #Sequoia and the 8 hours it took was well worth it. I will stay on Sequoia until #AsahiLinux does everything I need.

@drewtowler @geerlingguy Not that I am a fan of Tahoe, it does feel quite bad in places… but what was the straw that broke the camel’s back enough to downgrade?

Also, what does #AsahiLinux not yet do that you need? 🤔

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Hard to explain but the - skeumorphism? - the stuff that makes it feel real and solid - is all wrong. Borders, shadows & opacity levels are in conflict with each other so it feels like a fence made out of crooked pallets. And scrollbars disappearing into overly-rounded corners? Argh. Ewww.

And of course all the glitches which Apple never seems to prioritise.

Asahi has USB-C display now, but still not Thunderbolt (I have a 14-port Thunderbolt dock I can't live without).

@drewtowler @geerlingguy Totally get you. I’ve run into a huge bunch of bugs on Tahoe and no lover of the interface.

If Asahi had managed to get to M3 support a bit quicker I might have just bought a refurb and done Asahi but ended up replacing my 5 year old M1 with an M4 mid last year..

Have Asahi on the M1 but Arch version and is not the daily driver (use it as a server mostly).

@awws @geerlingguy I'm torn now. My Sequoia M1 Air with dock & big screen is my daily driver but across the office I also have a Gen6 Thinkpad X1 Carbon running Fedora KDE Spin, which I like more than macOS (and it really flies). I suspect I won't be buying any more Apple devices.

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It really took 8 hours? That is discouraging!

@steve_zeke @geerlingguy The first 3 were preserving data & settings and the last 2 were restoring things. Pure downgrade was 3 hours.
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These days we don't seem to have many choices. When macs became Unix boxen (the days of the big cats) I was a mac guy. Today it seems like FreeBSD is the only OS that doesn't f* with you too much but it is the one that requires the most TLC to be productive with. As a software engineer it is an easy choice for me, much less so for my partner who is a pharmacist (brilliant lady but she still calls xterms "dos box").