John WiseMar 3
Jan Wildeboer 😷
Don’t call it age verification. Call it centralised personal data collection. And understand that it serves surveillance, not safety for children. Thank you for your cooperation.
Mar 3 at 8:31amWeb
Show threadMarek idkfa 🌕Mar 3
@jwildeboer but they have your data already…
Show threadPaul HealeyMar 3
@kayo77 @jwildeboer The corporate collection and control of personal data facilitates the sale of it. The beneficiaries are criminals, corrupt politicians and investors who profit from financing and selling it onto authoritarian regimes. Doing that means #GDPR can be cancelled to further extract compliance and monies from the people so as to take away any idea of freedom ground on the equality of civil rights! #Freedom #FascistGrowth
Show threadScallopsMar 4
Of all the instances to use to have such a terrible take… @kayo77 @jwildeboer
Show threadSoftspeakMar 3

@jwildeboer
Let me assure you, There's is 100% chance they are going to be people suing each other online for hurt feelings, once anonymity is gone. Arrests will be made base on hints of what is seriously or jokingly mentioned.

I left Facebook 15 years ago when they asked for my ID, at that time I was using a moniker handle. I was shocked that a social network demanded my ID (someone wanted to attempt to sue me) because was saying a lot of unsavory political things to Bush-voters. I just never gave Facebook my ID, and they closed my account.

This experience repeated on twitter a few years later. Now I see Discord and Google are doing it.

Show threadOliviaMar 3
@jwildeboer
Show threadAlexMar 3
@ena @jwildeboer alt : the discord logo, with the text 'Papers, please', in the style of the Papers, please video-game
Show threadDomestic Supply Mar 3
@jwildeboer I predict that more than one implementation of age verification will allow the user to check a box to indicate that they live in a jurisdiction that does not require it.
Show threadalways tiredMar 3

@ddgulledge @jwildeboer

Probably not, when geolocation is simple.

Show threadBartoszMar 3
@jwildeboer the absurdity of it is mind blowing. Does anyone who works on regulations have an idea how risky it is to give random social media vendors legitimate interest in processing IDs?
Those will leak, get hacked, and people's biometric will be available for purchase. One can change their password, but the face?
Show threadBlender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud )Mar 3
@jwildeboer "Surveillance Masked by Ageism"
Show threadclonedhumanMar 3

@jwildeboer The CEOs of the corporations pushing for age verification all over the planet have likely raped children.

They're also the ones who always push their own agenda as something that must be done 'for the children.' They've been doing that in the United States since Reagan.

Show threadUriel FanelliMar 3
@jwildeboer nope. this is stupid govt fail, in provide some safe public API to check age. Census is a govt job.
Show threadPasswordsarehard4Mar 3
@jwildeboer whenever someone says “won’t someone think of the children” I’ve learned to check where my wallet is because someone’s trying to rob me.
Show threadKaitoMar 3
(kindly check your nearest infosec.exchange member if antifascism is right for them)
Show threadDominik DammerMar 3
@jwildeboer rule of thumb: if corp or politics say theyll do it for the children, its always a lie. nobody cares about children
Show threadPascal 🇪🇺 🇺🇦Mar 4
@DominikDammer
*cough* climate change *cough*
@jwildeboer
Show threadSpread The TruthMar 3
@jwildeboer and when I went to update my dTap shot in order to get that I had to divulge my gender and other intrusive invasive and totally worthless information that has nothing to do with my health and it's all in the name of surveillance and collecting data
Show threadCuriousMar 3
@jwildeboer I'm sure it's perfectly safe
Show threadDavid SMar 3

@jwildeboer

"if I have been using your service for over 19 years, do not ask me for age verification or I will find a competitor"

Show threadChad McCulloughMar 3
@jwildeboer 💯
Show threadפְּרִיMar 3
@jwildeboer it's certainly an easier sale than convincing voters they should just auction off the driver's license database registry
Show threadshomMar 3
@jwildeboer I've been calling it what it is, government idenity monitoring. That seems to resonate with a few people who are otherwise calloused from privacy erosion.
Show threadfamousringoMar 3

@jwildeboer Facebook trying to shift the data risk and regulatory burden onto rivals.

Lawmakers need to ask the question: what would somebody like Trump do with this regulation?

Wherever you live in the world, there’s a wannabe Trump eager to place his boot on your neck.

Show threade1evenf1ngersMar 3
@jwildeboer it also helps platforms better verify human generated content, something valuable to AI companies right now.
Show threadReally Lazy Bear Mar 3
@jwildeboer It always has been. "Protecting the children" my ass. It's just excuses.
Show threadcockburn. Mar 4

@jwildeboer remember: "never give your personal details to strangers on the internet" includes big tech corporations.

*especially* big tech corporations.

Show threadGrow FediverseMar 4

@jwildeboer "The billionaire who runs Palantir wants to know which specific devices around the world are being used by our children"
"The billionaire who runs Palantir is in the Epstein files"

Mayhaps there is a reason other than security that he wants to know where all our children are 😬

Show threadJoep Bos-CoenraadMar 4
@jwildeboer as far as I've seen so far, the only acceptable method for age verification is via an "older than X" attribute in the open source Yivi (previously IRMA) identity wallet, excluding additional identifying data.
Show thread🇪🇺 Paul Schoonhoven 🍋🍉Mar 4

@joepbc @jwildeboer

Exactly .. With those kind of identifiers it is very well possible to keep the real data secure in a few vaults.
In NL banks have iDin. In a way similar. There are more solutions possible to use.

Show threadDaniel KasajMar 4
@jwildeboer @daniel it's wild to me that people are not connecting the sudden identity verification in OSes and Anthropic not wanting to comply with US Govt mass surveilance contract
Show threadnLupo  Mar 4
@jwildeboer If you actually care about the children you should fight any such thing, because you replace one creep with another with a badge.
Show threadDroid Boy Mar 6
@jwildeboer and what if we would do it the right way without central data collection? Why do we think that's only possible in a bad way?
Show threadJybzMar 10

@jwildeboer
Long story short :
Implementation on libre system is not possible (100 workaround to bypass any implementation).
Such law are a quarter of century too late if you compare the uncensured/unsafe internet of early 2000.

Real question is what does it hides ?
Certralised internet for alphabet and meta ?
Market share in favor of non-libre systems for apple and microsoft ?