ZenHeathen πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

Okay, #RaidersOfTheLostArk. Opening segment, the idol up through flying home.

Indy's pilot with the float plane. Is his name "Jock" or "Jacques"?

And is his accent British or American?

He flips from "oi, das jus moy pet snake reggay" to "c'maaan, show a liddle backbone, will ya?" from one line to the next.

This has been bugging me for *forty-five years*.

Mar 1 at 7:45pmWeb
Show threadSimon HainMar 1
@ZenHeathen maybe he traveled a lot and speaks multiple dialects!
Show threadmarkyc46Mar 1
@ZenHeathen it is written that only upon his deathbed will Spielberg reveal who the hell the character was and where the hell he was from...we must continue our wait for the truth...stay strong.
Show threadZenHeathen πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦Mar 1
@markyc46 Probably written on the Ark, lost somewhere in that damn warehouse
Show threadmarkyc46Mar 1
@ZenHeathen although, there can't be that many crates in there that spontaneously catch fire and emit strange rhythmic sounds that can bend rat's necks... should really be an easy spot if we're being honest about it.
Show threadFluffgar 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Mar 1
@ZenHeathen Hard to make out the name. Jack or Jock. Accent sounds very US to me.
Show threadAnnelies Kamran, Ph.D.Mar 1
@ZenHeathen @VCP IIRC, in the novelization it was "Jock". I don't think the accents used in the movie were mentioned.
Show threadStuck HereMar 1

@ZenHeathen

Could he be American Cajun from the Louisiana Bayou?

Show threadThoraiyaMar 1
@ZenHeathen always thought it was a South African actor trying to do an Aussie accent :)
Show threadGed MaheuxMar 1
@ZenHeathen How does the name read when you turn on captioning?
Show threadZenHeathen πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦Mar 1
@gedeonm My copy doesn't have captioning.
Show threadGed MaheuxMar 1
@ZenHeathen Now we know! πŸ€“ I personally have always thought his name was Jacques. Cool!
Show threadShadSterlingMar 1
@ZenHeathen might be related to Bert, with relatives in Ohio
Show threadPhogna BolognaMar 1
@ZenHeathen he has a name tape on his shirt that says Jock. And he's an American (played by American pilot Fred Sorenson), the first line is "aw that's just mah pet snake reggie!", which is American accented. πŸ‘ (ETA pic)
Show threadZenHeathen πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦Mar 1
@bransonturner See, that's another thing that's been bugging me. Perhaps I'm the only one who hears the Cockney accent on his first line. Am I imagining it?
Show threadPhogna BolognaMar 1
@ZenHeathen its like when they caption Donald Duck with swearing and then you can only hear it that way.
Show threadSabrina πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΉπŸ‡ΌπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈMar 1
@ZenHeathen I’m more bugged by the fact that it’s a two-seat plane- how was the guide (Alfred Molina’s character) supposed to get out?
Show threadZenHeathen πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦Mar 1

@lds Maybe Indy met up with him and the others on location, near the hidden temple?

Honestly, in terms of plot and technical specifics, I think we have to give the whole opening segment a big pass, as it plays pretty fast and loose with the rules in order to set the stage, give us the big intro to "this is like old movie serials, right?" thing.

Forrestal is one of the few who's ever made it this far, and Indy is only just now getting this far, probably from following Forrestal's notes or something, right? So no modern person has found this temple before, maybe a couple of years ago. Yet Alfred Molina points out that no one has come out of there alive. Well hell--either Forrestal or Indy could have just found Al in a bar somewhere and asked him about the temple, and he'd have led them right here! No need to piece together scraps of ancient maps or anything; Mr. Molina seems to *know* this place*, and perhaps even have led others here before. Why isn't he the one walking in front, if he already knows where he's going?

But the accent thing--if I'm even hearing it, I'm still not 100% convinced I'm not imagining it--that's down to the actor or editing/ADR.