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Imagine you are writing a reusable UI component for a scrollable list. You want your list to have a property such, if true, the list follows the rule "if the user is already scrolled to the bottom of the list, and a new item is added to the bottom, autoscroll to the new bottom".

What would you name this property?

Feb 22 at 8:38pmWeb
Show threadFait partie des meublesFeb 22
@mcc something like pinAtLastItem
Show threadRichard HendricksFeb 23
@romromrom @mcc "pinTheBottom" is _right there_.
Show threaddamien 🥖🐈‍⬛🧣Feb 22
@mcc stickTo[side]
Show threaddcbaokFeb 22
@mcc reaching a new low
Show threadelomatreb 🚂Feb 22
@mcc "sticky" 🤔
Show threadKevin Boyd (he/him) 🇨🇦Feb 22
@elomatreb @mcc gotta be "stickyBottom"
Show threadAndy LeeFeb 22

@kboyd @elomatreb @mcc Beat me to it.

I unironically think "sticky bottom" is an excellent name for this feature -- concise and expressive. But I also suspect it already has a name.

Show threadmal3abyFeb 22
@kboyd @elomatreb @mcc I was more thinking "sticky end"...
Show threadHugo MillsFeb 22
@mcc Best I can manage on short notice is "scroll on extend"
Show threadSnoopJFeb 22
@mcc `follow_bottom` (or perhaps `follow_edge` if it also applies to the top)
Show threadCassandra is only carbon nowFeb 22
@SnoopJ @mcc I like that "follow" has the same semantics as it does in the context of tail and the like.
Show threadelsoFeb 22
@mcc follow or tail
Show threadDoug WadeFeb 22
@elso @mcc I also like tail, by analogy to tailing logs using the Linux tail command.
Show threadOblomovFeb 23
@elso @mcc this would have been my recommendation, possibly combined in FollowTail or TailFollow
Show threadvalFeb 22
@mcc if it's meant for something intrinsically time-based (like a log): "follow" or "follow updates".
Otherwise, I don't know.
Show threadZośkaFeb 22
@mcc DigDeeper
Show threadsleet01Feb 22
@theZosia @mcc "DelveDeeper", surely? :)
Show threadShaadraFeb 22
@mcc stay_at_bottom
Show threadquaffFeb 22
@mcc it's sort of like "follow stream" or "streaming scroll" or something along those lines.
Show threadMaura HubbellFeb 22
@mcc Is it just the bottom? I want to call it scrollToInsertion.
Show threadManic Emo Dream GhoulFeb 22
@mcc Pit of Abyss
Show threadPhairupegiontFeb 22
@mcc in DebugView the menu option for this is called "Auto Scroll"
Show threadSteve HoldenFeb 22
@phairupegiont @mcc If it’s an accepted term, no point re-inventing.
Show threadfabs();Feb 22
@mcc it's like we page mode vs logs mode... Maybe reading_mode, but true when it doesn't auto follow.
Show threadNeo EhproqueFeb 22
@mcc AlwaysReachNewLow
Also the name of my autobiography
Show threadianhFeb 22
@mcc “anchorsToBottom” maybe? i’ve been writing something similar which has an “anchorIndex” that can be equal to the list’s length (which produces this behavior)
Show threadegg boy colorFeb 22

@mcc brainstorm ([bracketed] parts are optional, / indicates an alternative, * indicates one I like more):

[auto]scroll_to_update, [auto]scroll_to_latest, [auto]follow_updates, [auto]scroll_track_updates, *[auto]scroll_at_bottom, [update_/auto]scroll_on_grow[th], [update_/auto]scroll_on_expand, [update_/auto]scroll_on_add, *[auto]scroll_bottom_to_latest

Show threadRachel GreenhamFeb 22
@mcc autoScrollToNewItem - name implies it scrolls to reveal a new item wherever its added, not just at end.
Show threadabrasiveFeb 22

@mcc A vote for "auto_scroll" variants: Wireshark calls this "Automatically scroll during live capture" and has the healthy semantics you describe where if you manually scroll away it will stop autoscrolling, and it resumes if you manually scroll to bottom again

you could probably afford to be a bit more verbose though like "auto_scroll_on_append"

Show threadCarl MuckenhouptFeb 22

@mcc Is this generalized to "when the height of the list changes, preserve the current position as a fraction of the height rather than as an absolute" or is it a property peculiar to the bottom?

In the former case, something like "PositionHeightRelative". In the latter, something like "StayAtBottom". Or maybe even "StickyBottom" if I were feeling naughty.

Show thread🆘Bill Cole 🇺🇦Feb 22
@mcc Folllower
Show threadEntirio RotokolyFeb 23

@grumpybozo @mcc

„tail“ command from GNU coreutils uses „--follow“

Show threadRafael Pérez 🌱Feb 23

@mcc

NavigateToNewListEndOnPush

Show threadmccFeb 23
@rperezrosario so this is where I admit this is all about me trying to find a way to word it other than "stick_bottom"
Show threadRafael Pérez 🌱Feb 23
@mcc Lol.
Show threadclarity flowersFeb 23

@mcc `keepAtEnd`.

Unrelated, I initially read this as saying "Imagine you are a reusable UI component…" and it landed very differently for me

Show threadmccFeb 23
@clarity smalltalk documentation standards in reverse
Show threadPossumanthaFeb 23
@mcc T-u74by7
Show threada pale slim ghostFeb 23
@mcc keepScrollingScrollingScrollingHuh
Show threadrakooFeb 23
@mcc

fzf has the "follow" keyword for its preview pane to tell it to display the latest lines continuously
Show threadJR Rickerson Feb 25
@mcc HoldTheFloor