R.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

Well, this is forking intolerable.

#Firefox is officially #enshittified.

It turned on the horrid "sponsored shortcuts" and "sponsored stories" without me asking.

Those stories are the last dadgum thing I ever want to see. I don't want more news about USFASH.

Smeg #Mozilla. I hope Google bumps them off the money-nipple and they crash and burn.

I'm going to try #WaterFox and #LibreWolf again.

#enshittification #e14n

Show threadChronoFeb 22
@rl_dane I switched to Zen Browser yesterday, I have peace
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 

@joel

I can't with that UI. I don't know what planet that's from. XD

Feb 22 at 1:46pmWeb
Show threadjaseFeb 22
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I'm currently using Vivaldi, having switched from Brave, despite not being open source & based on chromium, they seem to be the 'good guys' at the moment.

I eagerly await Ladybird though.
Show threadChronoFeb 22
@jase @rl_dane I switched my parents to Vivaldi as well, they really seem like the most sensible browser for non-techy users today
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@jase @joel

Yeah, they seem decent, honestly.

My gripe with Vivaldi isn't that the UI isn't FOSS, but that it's based on Blink.

That's not a technical objection, and it's not directly an ethical objection, but it comes from my deep-seated desire to not propagate the Blink hegemony, having lived through the awful "This website is designed to be used with Internet Explorer" days.

Show threadthedoctorFeb 22
@rl_dane @jase @joel uBlock origin. Nuff said.
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@thedoctor @jase @joel

I do use uBO, but I'm not sure what your comment is replying to?

Show threadthedoctorFeb 22
@rl_dane @jase @joel Well, Google has made it impossible to use the proper version of uBlock Origin with the whole manifest v3 affair, did it not? That is the single biggest reason for me to avoid anything Chromium-based on the desktop.
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@thedoctor @jase @joel

They've blocked it in Chromium proper, but many Blink-based browsers including Vivaldi allow it to run.

Show threadthedoctorFeb 22
@rl_dane @jase @joel Indeed? Interesting.
Show threadjaseFeb 22
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Yeah, I kinda struggle with the current Blink connection, however Blink originated as a fork of Apple WebKit, which itself was a fork of KDE's KHTML, as a KDE enjoyer I look at is as using a displaced KDE project.... Yeah a stretch I know.
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 23

@jase @joel

I mean, that's kind of like calling modern MacOS a Unix, but ok my man. ;)

Show threadMoses IzumiFeb 22
@rl_dane @joel
I used it for a month because it had vertical tabs and LibreWolf (appimage) kept crashing on me.
switched back to Librewolf (external debian repo) when I discovered that it already had native support for vertical tabs.

Never really used Zen's gimmicks, whatever they may have been.

Do appreciate Seamonkey for having big colorful icons, and the ability to easily fold away parts of the GUI.
Even has a Star Trek LCARS theme (mainly a TOS guy, never looked into TNG).
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@moses_izumi @joel

I think I tried #SeaMonkey once when it first came out, and it was a nice blast from the past to the original Mozilla days. ;)

Haven't tried it in a long time.

Oh dang, SeaMonkey came out in 2006?!? So my nostalgia was maybe 6-7 years old at the time.

lol

GenXers like me are so completely lost in time 🤣

Show threadMoses IzumiFeb 22
@rl_dane @joel
Used it between 2013-2017 or so.

Relied on its email client pretty often, because it was more servicable than the one that shipped with Windows 8-10 (had a decent GUI but centrered around POP3, would sometimes break itself and couldn't really be reconfigured from the GUI).
Might use it again if I get sick of Betterbird for whatever reason.
Show threadPaul Wilde    Feb 22
@rl_dane @moses_izumi @joel i keep going back to seamonkey to get those early internet feels
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Feb 22

@paul @moses_izumi @joel

Heh, "early internet feels" for me would be #NCSA Mosaic and/or accessing the web through telnet on DOS and a 1200-baud modem. XD

Show threadPaul Wilde    Feb 22
@rl_dane @moses_izumi @joel back when that was around I was rocking an amiga 600 and later 1200 - airgapped (we did not have the internet)
It did have a web browser though, wish I could remember its name
Show threadnjsgMar 8

@rl_dane @paul @moses_izumi @joel /me looks at his SeaMonkey profile with OverbiteFF for gopher

Does that count as "early internet feels" too?

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 Mar 9

@njsg @paul @moses_izumi @joel

I mean, "Early Internet" is entirely defined by you and your experiences. :)

I assure you Bill Joy's or Kirk McCusick's "Early Internet" experiences would be at least a decade before mine. XD

And Vint Cerf's even earlier. ;)

Show thread🐜Feb 23
@rl_dane @moses_izumi @joel i still use sm