I'm thinking of cutting out on meat, maybe out of 14 meals (no breakfast) in a week, 3 would contain seafood and the Sunday meal could be red meat.
I'm personally of the opinion that meat is instrumental to health (especially because of my celiacs), however, after the #Epstein stuff with #cannibalism, and my love for animals, I feel like throwing up every time I see meat. I want to be eating meat, but I just can't do it anymore.
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@eugenialoli so the propaganda, aiming at emotions, beats facts (health)?
I'm with you on both sides, health and love for animals. Note: Plant agriculture has to kill lots (more) of animals to ensure they don't compete and eat the crops. And those that don't die from the poison risk ending up in harvesting machines.
I'm opting for fewer animals to die, and greater biodiversity. Thus I eat meat. When you're omitting that, you simply don't see the dead animals, but they're undeniable.
@AndreaKusel @eugenialoli not when kept on gras. And even the industrial agribusiness (which I'm not supporting) doesn't predominantly feed the crops but byproducts. Plants have a tiny amount of crop that humans are interested in, and a lot of inedible parts (not to mention leftovers from other processes)
I recall a study specifying that 25 times the amount of sentient beings are killed per kg of plant protein (not accounting for insects etc), not sure if bioavailability is even included.
@AndreaKusel This one: https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659
It lists a refutal, which intends to change the numbers (but not reverse the relation), and there also are newer publications looking at the numbers again from a different angle.
I won't hold firm to the 25x, but there's definitely a significant number of deaths involved in plant agriculture, typically conveniently ignored & accepted as "unavoidable collateral".
Plus, the necessary pest-control significantly impacts biodiversity.
@olafk This *article* (which is not a study) and its refutal both focus on Australia which seems to be a special case when compared to other industrialized countries. At least in Germany, where I live, it is only a small percentage of cattle that feeds entirely or mostly on pasture. And in plant agriculture here, pesticides and machines that could harm wild animals are used regardless of whether the harvest is consumed by humans or by cattle.
The refutal does not correct every single number mentioned in the first article, but it does come to a conclusion that is quite the opposite: "Professor Archer, in his widely-read article, is right to stress the environmental consequences of grain production (including mice deaths) but the body count is higher for a meat than a vegetarian diet."
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