FlyoverblueFeb 4
Brian Jopek
Most definitely.
Feb 4 at 11:58amWeb
Show threadClinton Anderson SwordForHireFeb 4

@BrianJopek

It is up to every American to save America from itself.

If Americans don't do it, the rest of the world is going to, and America is really not going to like it.

Either way it is going to take a furious exchange of hot lead to accomplish. The sooner the better.

Show threadFFeb 4

@BrianJopek
@briankrebs

The US was created when 13 crown colonies that didn't want to pay taxes on their two largest exports. Genocidal land expansion and chattel slavery

Show threadRay McCarthyFeb 4

@zm @BrianJopek @briankrebs
The taxation is often emphasised. The reluctance of the British to issue "exploitation licences" of the Natives to rich white men is rarely mentioned.

The President was given too much "king-like" powers from the start and only well off white men had a vote.
The Civil War was more about control than slaves (see Jim Crow laws). You can be annexed (Hawai'i, Alaska, Mexican territory etc) but you can't leave.

Show threadTheNovemberFella ✊🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀Feb 4
@BrianJopek 👍💯👍 Yes please
Show threadhaui ☭ 🇵🇸Feb 4

@BrianJopek
The slave owning founding fathers put in checks and balances against people ruining their genocidal settler state.

Although trump is clearly a raging maniac, he is a product of the system. Trump or not, the american economy is in ruins and the genocidal settler colony overseas was not made by trump.

Trump also did not invent epstein and his pedo cannibalism club. Clinton himself was part of that, along a slew of others.

The system is based on exploitation. Its working as intended.

Show threadTrump & Epstein: Biz partners.Feb 4

@BrianJopek
A line from "Married With Children" keeps coming back to me:

"If you hand a gun to a chimp and the chimp shoots someone, you don't blame the chimp." - Marcy D'Arcy

Show threadJorge 🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍🌈🇵🇸Feb 4
@BrianJopek @briankrebs in other words, and (sadly) as we are starting to see it from outside, it’s not a Trump problem, it’s a USA problem. And I’m not sure we’ll be able to move past it once you get rid of him.
Show threadJhooperFeb 4
@tecnijota @BrianJopek @briankrebs At this point, it's looking more and more like the solution to Trump will come from outside the established system of governance. It's going to be hard, likely bloody and involve a massive amount of uncertainty, but if it comes to that, we may have the opportunity to rewrite large parts of the system. For the better, I hope...
Show threadAndii אַנדִֽיFeb 4
@BrianJopek
Looks like ' the adults' who should meet out 'consequences' are instead indulging the toddler. Supreme Court, federal agencies. All prepared to stand in the way of letting others do the job too.
Show threadGravity Sucks...then it FallsFeb 4
@BrianJopek Yup. 💯
Show threadIlka 🌐Feb 4
@BrianJopek USamericans need Europeans to remind them of that. After all, we've been there, done that. A couple of times, spread over centuries. BUT the difference is, their poop king tries to drag down the world for his personal benefit, while Euro fascists always wanted to rule & reign the world & build it as their fav happy place. The USApolititians do not want to stop him, they want him to keep covering up their despicable crimes. NO ONE ELSE is dilapidated enough to cover them like he does.
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESFeb 4

@BrianJopek

by the way, these checks and balances do not just apply to the supreme court and congress

it applies to *you*

FUCKING #VOTE, PEOPLE

the next dem candidate may SUCK. fucking SUCK

(they won't suck IF YOU SHOW UP IN THE FUCKING PRIMARIES, USELESS WHINERS)

as if the dem candidate sucking fucking matters with a fascist threat like trump and MAGA

a vote is not a statement of eternal love

it's tactics in a larger war

fight the war and fuck your mindless cynicism and toxic idealism

Show threadMidgePhotoFeb 4
@benroyce @[email protected] select the least bad, or even the candidate with the least bad consequences.
Show threadDiane 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈Feb 4

"You're trying to put someone in power that you have a chance of influencing. I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure you don't succeed, and the worst person possible gets in. I am a more morally upstanding person than you"

-Internet Leftists

Show threadGJ Groothedde 🇪🇺Feb 4
@benroyce
I admire your stamina, my pindakaas-loving buddy!
@BrianJopek
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESFeb 4

@Eetschrijver @BrianJopek

there is nothing virtuous in me. i am powered by spite. i fucking hate nonvoters with a white hot fury. useless fucking cynics and perfectionists, sitting there with their lazy entitled whining and inaction while we slide to fascism

that my spite happens to serve a common good is happy happenstance. in other words, in the greatest statement of moral philosophy made in the entire history of humanity: "helaas pindakaas" 🤭

Show threadGJ Groothedde 🇪🇺Feb 4
@benroyce
*applauds and cheers*
@BrianJopek
Show threadTekniquelly correctFeb 4

@benroyce @BrianJopek “But Candidate X isn’t flawless! I might as well just vote for the tyrant!”

I do appreciate when people say that out loud so I know whose opinions I can ignore from that moment on.

Show threadSteve HerseyFeb 4

@tek @benroyce @BrianJopek

"I'm not satisfied with half a loaf, so I'll just eat rat poison instead!"

My summary of the last Presidential election result. True, the race was decided by a small minority of actual (nitwit or evil) voters, but as for those of you who couldn't be bothered to vote, you suck too.

Show threadCyFeb 4
What if they're both tyrants?

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Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESFeb 4

@cy @BrianJopek @tek

both tyrants as in reality

or "both tyrants" as in edgelord mindlessly cynical bullshit, often pumped from MAGA/ geopolitical trollfarm accounts cosplaying left to do an easy psyop to suppress the left vote and help elect the real tyrant, and unfortunately believed by toxic idealism morons

Show threadTekniquelly correctFeb 4

@benroyce @cy @BrianJopek Nailed it all around.

The many “both sides are the same!” whiners were either hopelessly ignorant or wholly gullible.

Imagine Harris invading Minnesota. As if.

Show threadKevin LaRose,aka GrumpasaurusFeb 4
@tek @benroyce @cy @BrianJopek Hmm, #Kamala a tyrant? Could somebody with that laugh ever be considered a tyrant? I say no. Many have categorized that laugh as annoying, or unPresidential, or whatever, I always considered it infectious.
Show threadTekniquelly correctFeb 4

@Thumper1964 @benroyce @cy @BrianJopek Well, she definitely wasn't a perfect candidate, as though such a thing exists.

But wow, to settle for "just" intelligent, educated, rational, experienced, competent, and a decent human? Again, and I cannot stress this enough, the "both sides are the same" crowd are freaking idiots.

Show threadFElon&Felon47🇺🇦🇨🇦🇩🇰🇹🇼Feb 4
@tek @Thumper1964 @benroyce @cy @BrianJopek
Both sides are the same is almost always a telling excuse for your own side. Are there independents who share your issue? Who do they caucus with? WHO DO THEY CAUCUS WITH?
Show threadTekniquelly correctFeb 4
@RustedComputing @Thumper1964 @benroyce @cy @BrianJopek So much this.
Show threadCyFeb 5
As in reality. Here, I'll answer my own question.

If they're both tyrants, who will continue the same tyranny, then your electoral process has already been compromised by tyrants, who are pretending to be different sides to mislead you into voting for them. In that scenario, no vote you make will stop your election from being rigged, so you're an idiot if you think voting third party, abstaining from voting, or voting for the Devil Himself would make anything different happen.

So vote for Harris, but it'll only prolong the tyranny unless you do something besides vote, to stop the propaganda, ballot stuffing, and voter disenfranchisement. And redistribute the wealth so no one has the power to rig your elections.

CC: @[email protected] @[email protected]
Show threadTekniquelly correctFeb 5

@cy @BrianJopek

I vehemently disagree. If we could all collectively decide to opt-out, then sure. But we can't. We won't. The right will absolutely, positively, never agree to abstain from elections. Ergo, the left abstaining is mathematically identical to voting for the right.

Voting for the lesser evil sucks. Not voting for the lesser evil is implicitly voting for the greater evil.

Sometimes the lesser evil is genuinely, truly... Less Evil.

Show threadCyFeb 6
I didn't say to abstain from elections. Just do something else too. "The right" will always vote, and they will always win, because your elections are rigged. Didn't you see the crowds that turned out for freaking Kamala Harris? And who did your billionaire master tell you was the winner, via "the news?"

Maybe try fixing that.
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESFeb 5

@cy @BrianJopek @tek

and how do you do any of those fucking things without voting

fighting propaganda for example:

it requires a set of laws

achieved how?

laws passed by representatives

what representatives?

representatives who were elected

elected by who?

elected because people fucking showed up and fucking voted

duh

all of this is all blood-dripping-out-of-your ears levels of fucking obvious

so, with all due respect: what the fuck are you babbling about? you're trolling or insane

Show threadDavid H. McCoyFeb 4

@benroyce @BrianJopek @jztusk

Yup.

Show threadGeorge BFeb 4

@BrianJopek @benroyce

A recent related thought:

When this criticism comes from an individual, it's fair. People who stayed home did fuck things up badly by not voting for the better option and leaving us with literally the worst president this country has ever seen.

However, when this criticism comes from the democratic party or someone in power there, I get pissed off. It's their job to get voters energized and get them voting and they failed at it. Miserably. Multiple times.

Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESFeb 4

@gbargoud @BrianJopek

who gives a fuck

why consider anything the democratic establishment says

they fucking suck

just ignore them, show the fuck up to vote, and replace them with real leftists

that's it

why do we fucking care what some spineless centrist democratic party asshole thinks?

why are our emotions centered on their words? why should we ever care?

just fucking ignore the useless pieces of shit and vote them out

Show threadTrump & Epstein: Biz partners.Feb 4

@benroyce @gbargoud @BrianJopek

...says every #MAGA idiot who is in a panic over the looming elections. #BothSides

Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESFeb 4

@MugsysRapSheet @gbargoud @BrianJopek

what?

i don't understand what you're saying

Show threadTrump & Epstein: Biz partners.Feb 4

@benroyce @gbargoud @BrianJopek
I don't care if #MTG herself decides to run as a #Democrat, I'd vote for her before I'd vote #Republican ever again.

Some #Democrats may suck, sure, but discouraging people from voting b/c of #BothSides idiocy is only doing the hard Right's work for them.

Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESFeb 4

@MugsysRapSheet @gbargoud @BrianJopek

i get it, you're agreeing with me. i thought you were arguing against me

sorry, i'm punch drunk

Show threadGeorge BFeb 4

@BrianJopek @benroyce

I do ignore them and plan to continue doing so except when voting them out in the primaries or holding my nose and voting for them in the generals if the primaries didn't work out and they are up against a fascist again.

This was more of an observation about how the same words should be interpreted differently depending on who says them.

Show threadDavid Scott MoyerFeb 4
@gbargoud @BrianJopek @benroyce Thank you. Refusing to vote for them if they make it through the primary process is what got us Trump.
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESFeb 4

@gbargoud @BrianJopek

no argument

well said

i merely worry about this "man i really hate the establishment dems, so i'm all for not voting and handing our country to MAGA"

which is fucking stupid but it exists out there

not accusing you of it, i'm making sure i put an asterisk on your words to preempt that unfortunate moronic sentiment out there

Show threadHarrybearFeb 4
@benroyce @gbargoud @BrianJopek
We need more voices like yours, folks ! Too many of us use more misguided rationalizations like these, or are just plain lazy, and waste our precious rights, handing elections over to (currently) fascist leaning opposition.
GET OUT AND VOTE !!!!! You can even do it by mail in many, if not most, states.
Show threadCynBlogger™️Resists Tyranny!Feb 4

@Harrybear @benroyce @gbargoud @BrianJopek

We need more than “voices.”
We need an army of people committed to working the vote, to registering eligible voters, to calling/texting/door knocking/postcarding voters; an army dedicated to GETTING OUT THE VOTE.

We had a pretty effective #GOTV effort in 2018 & 2020, but approx 80 million eligible voters didn’t show up in 2024 — and look what happened!

The U.S. has a miserable record historically of voter turnout for the last 100+ years. In presidential election years, turnout never exceeds 63%, and midterms average around 40%.

WE CAN CHANGE THAT with effort, information, & commitment.

#StopTrumpNow
#GOTV

Show threadDavid Scott MoyerFeb 4
@benroyce @BrianJopek When only 25% (which is typical) of Democrats show up for primary elections, we have seen what we get.
Show threadNuwagaba GiftFeb 4
@BrianJopek
How can he best stopped?
Show threadRobin BartonFeb 4
@BrianJopek well put. The Weimar Republic had what many considered the best constitution but the people with power hated it and so it failed which led to the Nazis. It is almost like history, if we studied it, could teach us something
Show threaddecapitaeFeb 5
@BrianJopek "Choir" member here. Sound advice, I think.
Show threadJustin MacleodFeb 6
@BrianJopek Yes this. Absolutely fucking this. When is it going to be too much and someone who isn't a member of the Minnesota general public is actually going to step up and do something meaningful. 5000 times mentioned in the Epstine files or more, a convicted fellon, a racist who brags about sexual assalt, believes in torture, jokes about journalists getting shot. And most people are like hmmm this isn't very good is it.