Fact of the day: the Ford Edsel ("a 1950s flop so notorious that it’s taught in business schools to this day") outsold the Cybertruck 2:1, "in a country with half the population."

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/ford-introduces-edsel

(h/t Luke Savage in the American Prospect, https://prospect.org/2026/01/30/teslas-wile-e-coyote-moment-is-here/)

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@pluralistic Edsel was its own car brand, with seven model ranges.
@pluralistic Amazing - 'twice as bad as the Edsel' makes for a great anti-marketing slogan for it!
In my MBA class, the Edsel was just mentioned in passing. Tesla is held up as a glowing example of innovation. Granted, the material is 5 years old, but still lol (at the material, I agree with your post)
@pluralistic lower population AND lower car ownership per capita
@christmastree @pluralistic to be fair, the Edsel was aimed at a middle class audience when the country was doing very well and the tesla was aimed at a high end audience when the country was going down the crapper.
@pluralistic The Edsel wasn't *that* bad.. sure, a rather offputting name and the one or other weird design decision, but if I could get one today, I'd totally drive it. (and probably try an electric rebuild). And it fulfilled its main purpose: transport a family and their luggage around the country. Which can not be said for the CT, since it fails at quite a lot of pickup truck duties.

@pluralistic And it failed despite the best attempts of the star-studded Edsel Show in 1957.

https://youtu.be/sQYUNhttTxo

The Edsel Show (1957) | Full Episode | Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Rosemary Clooney, Louis Armstrong

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@pluralistic nice to know EBSCO knows nothing about cars.

@pluralistic The Edsel would be a huge success for any small startup. The thing is, Tesla is still a small startup, but it's bizarrely overvalued so it gets compared to what was at the time the leading carmaker.

Note that Tesla is apparently leaving the car market in favor of robots.

Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

Tesla Inc assures its millions of electric car owners that their privacy “is and will always be enormously important to us.” The cameras it builds <a href="https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musks-2018-tweet-tesla-union-campaign-illegal-us-court-rules-2023-03-31/" target="_blank">into vehicles</a> to assist driving, it notes on its website, are “designed from the ground up to protect your privacy.”

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@Npars01 @nitpicking @pluralistic if anyone deserves what they signed up for, it’s Tesla owners. Just sayin’.
@DrSuzanne I agree, but by "Tesla owners" I mean people who bought its stock at absurd pricing. Vehicle owners were ... less obviously gullible.
@Npars01 @nitpicking @pluralistic The devil used to wear Prada; now it is in your car. #deletetesla

@Npars01 @nitpicking @pluralistic Which is why Teslas do not have other expensive systems to support self driving such as LIDAR.

Those systems are not much use for surveillance, only useful for autonomous vehicle operation.

https://mastodon.social/@the_wub/115909064737963755

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Get ‘em while they’re hot! 😎

@donhawkins @pluralistic Tax & Shipping included?
@jiri @pluralistic
😉 I duuno, it’s not mine, give ‘em a call. It was still there yesterday. 😎
@donhawkins
Has this been ever sold since 1958?
@pluralistic
@lebochequirit @pluralistic
Oh, do you mean, is the seller the original owner? I have no idea. But, I am doubtful.

@donhawkins @pluralistic Wait a moment, it has TWO catalytic converters!?

This used to be (or still is) a thing?

@Gabriel @pluralistic
You’re joking, right?
@donhawkins Sorry, my knowledge of cars is actually very little so it surprised me to see two exhaust pipes

@Gabriel @donhawkins That Edsel predates common use of catalytic converters by about 15 years.

Also as a side note, many cars with dual tailpipes have everything flowing through a single catalytic converter.

@Gabriel @donhawkins V8 with split exhaust, one from each bank of four cylinders. 1958 is long before smog control of any sort, let alone catalytic converters.
@Gabriel
No worries. No catalytic converter back then. So none required whose manufacture preceded their requirement.
@donhawkins @pluralistic I wonder how much it would cost to buy that, refurb it, and rip the guts out and replace it with electric. that is a really cool looking car.
@Amoshias @pluralistic
I’m guessing a lot. Unless you possess ALL the skill sets to DIY.

@donhawkins @pluralistic what if I possessed, and I will give you an approximation, NONE of the skills?

wait, maybe I could get some of the rust off that bumper.

@donhawkins @pluralistic
Nice!
Not sure about the price.
@donhawkins
How many caps is that? And it runs on microfusion cells, right?
@pluralistic
@pluralistic haha, a new business lesson for the modern ages.

@pluralistic And that was during the era where GM had about 50% market share. So for Ford to outsell makes it all the more notable. h/t Alex Taylor automotive journalist and author of the book
Sixty to Zero:
An Inside Look at the Collapse of General Motors--and the Detroit Auto Industry.

Which covers about half or so of the book to GM throughout and with other parts of of the book to all of the big three for those days til around 2008.

@pluralistic And initial opinions of the Edsel's styling were actually quite positive. People really only started calling it ugly after its other flaws became apparent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgoqombGieY
Is the 1958 Edsel Ugly? The True Story of the Vertical Grille

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i'm sure that, assuming we still *have* collegiate level business programs in the future, the cybertruck will be taught as "how not to have a disastrous flop".

@pluralistic I'm predicting
"remember when Tesla sold cars?"
"yeah that Cybertruck!"
well, they had other cars too.
"Yes but, that Cybertruck"
Are you listening?
"sorry. Can't help thinking about that humongous monstrosity"