Kim Elmose
Tuta#NewYearResolution2026: Never let people tell you it's impossible to deGoogle your life. 💪
➡️ Find out the names to the icons: https://tuta.com/blog/degoogle-list
Marco
JefferyT51@Tutanota a few suggestions:
Email: Proton (yes yes I know, but you mention them in calendars anyway.)
Translate: DeepL (?)
Browsers: I know they're Chromium, but options like Vivaldi and (reluctantly) Brave aren't half bad.
App Store: Obtainium
Android: Drop Calyx, its not actively being developed right now and is more of a security hazard than anything.
Maps: HEREWeGo (HERE Maps) is honestly pretty alright.
SmartWatch (WearOS): GadgetBridge, Garmin(?)
Google Home: Homeassistant
@Tutanota Couple others:
News: Any RSS apps (eg Feeder)
Wallet: Not great options. But loyalty cards work in Catima. NFC payments are tricky. Some (non U.S.) banks... and Garmin Watch again...
ToDo: Tasks.org, jtx Board
Weather: Breezy Weather
I'm a dummy. I just remembered.
SmartWatch (again) : Pebble! They're back! 🎉
Back To AnalogThere is a new, really good chromium-based browser, that says it is better than Brave - Helium.
Rebel Zhang@JefferyT51 @Tutanota Vivaldi is proprietary and is unethical and unjust and should be avoided. You should never suggest this browser.
🇩🇪 𝕳𝖆𝖑𝖑𝖊𝕬𝖓𝖉𝖊𝖗𝖙@rebel1725 @JefferyT51 @Tutanota Please explain why @Vivaldi is "unethical and unjust"! I'm curious.
@HalleAndert @JefferyT51 @Tutanota @Vivaldi It is all explained in Vivaldi's EULA. Vivaldi is proprietary and don't allow the users to study or modify it. This takes away the users' control over their computing, but by contrast let the computing control the users. https://vivaldi.com/privacy/vivaldi-end-user-license-agreement/
@HalleAndert This source code is incomplete and cannot produce a complete browser. Furthermore, this source code has a mixture of various licences, some of them are free, but others are non-free. Source availability does not equal to software freedom.
@rebel1725 Which browser do you recommend then?
@HalleAndert It depends on your needs. If you want security and privacy, LibreWolf and Mullvad are for you. If you want anonymity, Tor Browser is an ideal choice. If you want freedom, you may consider rebranded versions of Firefox such as Iceweasel and GNU IceCat. If you just want usability, go for Firefox or Chromium.
@rebel1725 Firefox and all its offshoots are not truly independent. They are heavily dependent on financial support from Google.
The only browser company I can fully trust based on its philosophy is VIVALDI Technologies, and I know many team members who used to work at Opera Software.
@HalleAndert If you wanna rather trust a fucking big brother who don't want to disclose their nasty source code and instead spying on you go use that fucking browser ahead 🙃
@HalleAndert Additionally, Opera, what they have mentioned, is proprietary too, and should be avoided.
[cr0n0s@🐧📡⌨️ 🛠️ ~ ] #@Tutanota include Delta Chat.
You are missing FreeTube
Vincenzo Giacalone Biondo@Tutanota nice list! I'm already using some of those. I suggest Deepl for translation and "Le Chat" for Gemini (ai)!
Ken M Sweeney@Tutanota never let people tell you they are user friendly though! It really annoys me when “Google alternatives” get promoted that are overcomplicated, ugly, and unusable for normal people.🤷
I honestly think many open-source developers don’t prioritise usability because they assume their products will always be fringe and non-commercial, so UX and onboarding are neglected. It becomes a badge-of-honour exercise to even get them working. 🛠️ 1)
@Tutanota I just tried Aurora Store. The homepage is full of Temu ads (ironically), there’s no clear download path, no proper instructions, and no obvious way to browse apps 📖.
If you want people to adopt alternatives, above all else they must be instantly easy to access, install, and use. Otherwise it’s Dungeons & Dragons level niche interest.🔚
Steffi the Redhead@TheComfortableSpotPodcast @Tutanota that is SOOO important.
Sometimes it's only one click less that makes an app better.
Edit: I remember several times I tried to install new software on PC and needed 1-2 hours. That was depressing.
I need a happy path!
@fuchsi @Tutanota totally agree. Most people don’t choose Google because they love surveillance. They choose it because:
° It works
° It’s fast
° It’s consistent
° It’s one click
If alternatives require:
° Three websites
° Two APK installers
° One GitHub repo
° And a prayer
…they’re dead on arrival outside hobbyist circles.
LittlePolarBear@TheComfortableSpotPodcast @fuchsi @Tutanota
and even within hobbyist circles it gets more difficult because recruiting your non-tech savvy partner or family is near impossible. These projects aren't as fun alone.
and even within hobbyist circles it gets more difficult because recruiting your non-tech savvy partner or family is near impossible. These projects aren't as fun alone.
Tariq@TheComfortableSpotPodcast @Tutanota
100% what Ken said
so much open source has not prioritised user experience, design.
and the tragedy is that the commercial options aren't super great - open source could really jump ahead.
@rzeta0 @Tutanota couldn't agree with you more. Aurora Store is a perfect example of this failure. My experience is sadly typical:
° Homepage cluttered with ads (ironically)
° No obvious download flow
° No clear explanation of what it is, how it works, or how to use it
° Multiple APK versions dumped in a folder with zero guidance
That’s not “freedom from Google.”
That’s DIY software archaeology.
Aurin Azadî@Tutanota Also instead of Google Photo: Piwigo. 🙂
@Tutanota openstreetmaps is soooo much better. I use mapy.cz as a frontend and it is soo much better for biking and tracking.
I didn't even know half of those browsers. Are the foxes all forked from Firefox?
WesDym@fuchsi Many browsers, including most with animal names, are Fireforks, yes. The Mozilla codebase is free for anyone to use, modify, and distribute, but some elements of the official Firefox are not. (Especially the name and logo.) Most forks seek to avoid aspects of FF considered undesirable, or provide absent features.
DrYak@Tutanota Suggestions :
Translations:
- Firefox supports downloading models and running locally (either to translate page or direct access in "about:translations")
Android: also list non Android derivatives:
- #SailfishOS <- I daily drive that
- postmarketOS
- UbuntuTouch
They all have (container-based) solutions to run Android apps if necessary (AppSupport, Waydroid)
Also, add fediverse:
- Pixelfed
- Peertube
Android:
- in the near future, #SteamOS on ARM is going to be an alternative to Android for the specific niche of gaming, with their Lepton as their own take on the cointainer approach for Android app (or more specifically in this case: mobile games)
- currently, most retro consoles also support Linux, but the exact distro tend to be device specific (AnberELEC, RockNix, Batocera, RetroPie, etc.)
Stuart (moved)Just to add that if you use KeepassXC it has a built in authenticator. ctrl-t, ctrl-v fill in the otp validation.
Phil Thane ✅@Tutanota
The only Google service I can't kick is YouTube because I watch a lot of music and niche interest videos not available elsewhere. Shame PeerTube can't just mirror YouTube! As it is I use FreeTube to watch YT but Google keep messing with the API to stop it working on 3rd party apps. Most recently yesterday afternoon.
The only Google service I can't kick is YouTube because I watch a lot of music and niche interest videos not available elsewhere. Shame PeerTube can't just mirror YouTube! As it is I use FreeTube to watch YT but Google keep messing with the API to stop it working on 3rd party apps. Most recently yesterday afternoon.
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Marc 🐷🌏@Tutanota
Yeah, could be, but to be honest, it costs a lot more than f.e. the all in one (mail, storage, photos) price 2,99/month that Apple charges.
I would be fine if that would be 5 or 6 euro, but it's really a lot more.
Wolfgang Cramer@Tutanota Ja, es ist tatsächlich möglich - und sehr einfach - die beiden ersten grossen Schritte zum Widerstand gegen die permanenente GAFAM-überwachung zu machen:
1) gmail verbannen, und
2) den browser nicht mit akivem google-account nutzen.
Eric@Tutanota hey tuta, can you give us a short roadmap to your cloud?
I already switched to tuta mail & calendar, now i want your cloud 
Morgan Nilsson
Scale Theory@Tutanota
Never downloaded anything ever again from google since It wouldn't let me uninstall some program/app back when they started.
How did yall not know they were bad back then?
Never downloaded anything ever again from google since It wouldn't let me uninstall some program/app back when they started.
How did yall not know they were bad back then?
Wassil
Darki03
Vick
MutuallyPrecautionary@Tutanota for being fully open-source organic maps is fantastic!
Phil BurnsA good list! I'm still using Google maps with Android Auto (also Google) - is there any alternative to Android auto?
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Jenny 
Jörg BaranczekHabe letzte Woche die Notizbuch App " OpenNotes" auf F-Droid entdeckt. Für mich ( fast optimal ) . Es fehlt mir nur Fett, Kursiv etc. für Nachrichten und ein funktionierender Import Export. Hat bei mir nicht funktiniert. JSON Datei. Vieleicht blockiert auch Android oder Xiaomi den Download, das Installieren.
Hé, rouelibre ?
DigitalDigger@Tutanota As usual you just forget about Informaniak. Their suite (email, cloud, office) is really good and their AI Euria work's surprisingly well
@GrapheneOS Tuta is mentioning /e/ again.
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