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Andrew StroehleinAppeasement didn't work with Hitler.
Appeasement didn't work with Putin.
Appeasement isn't working with Trump.
When will Europe learn this most basic lesson about how to deal with imperialist bullies?
Dagnabbit, Pascaline! 💥Ah, I don't know, maybe when they will realise they shouldn't be in it for money, power, and privileges.
Linda Rose Smit@andrewstroehlein go grab’em by the balls. Or their bankaccount.
panu@andrewstroehlein
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Ross of Ottawa@andrewstroehlein conflicts with all his allies and continually undermines NATO – like she said, all roads lead to Russia with this guy.
BaseFortify@andrewstroehlein They know appeasement does not work, but before Trump was still constrained in ways Hitler and Putin never were - they have to treat Trump as aberration. Considering their difficult position in that they are far too attached to the US they are doing what they can.
Giacinto Boccia@BaseFortify @andrewstroehlein
Europe now is in a very tough spot: we desperately need American help to keep the Russians out of (most of) Ukraine, and Trump knows it, give us another 5-10 years and some of our new defens programs may give results, but for now we need the Americans.
Europe now is in a very tough spot: we desperately need American help to keep the Russians out of (most of) Ukraine, and Trump knows it, give us another 5-10 years and some of our new defens programs may give results, but for now we need the Americans.
Byrnensorg🇮🇪🇺🇦🇵🇸🇬🇱🇩🇰@andrewstroehlein I seriously think that he touted the idea of swapping Greenland for parts of Ukraine with Putin and this plan required Putin to take Greenland, hence the numerous overt warnings that Greenland is vulnerable to Russia, but Putin isn't honouring his part of the plan despite Trump's desperate 'subtleties'. In other words Putin again made the orange numbskull look even more of an idiot, and Zelensky will get the blame for it... again.
Andreas@andrewstroehlein
just read that our 13 glorious German army members who were sent to Greenland will be returned now: mission accomplished. Mr Merz is getting cold feet. LOL
while Macron wants to initiate further steps - translate with deepl (it's a short article)
https://lostineu.eu/groenland-macron-will-trump-trotzen-merz-kneift-schon-wieder/
Grönland: Macron will Trump trotzen, Merz kneift schon wieder - Lost in EUrope
Nach den jüngsten Drohungen von US-Präsident Trump in Sachen Grönland hat die EU die USA vor einer “Eskalation” gewarnt. Doch Taten lassen auf sich warten – die Bundeswehr reist sogar vorzeitig aus Grönland ab. Zieht Kanzler Merz den Schwanz ein? Viele wortreiche Erklärungen, aber keine Taten und erst recht keine Gegenwehr: Die europäische Reaktion auf […]
SamuelJohnson@andrewstroehlein Whether there is open conflict or not trust in the US is now gone and a new world order is in the process of being arranged. Carney has spoken of it openly. Europeans are preparing for it quietly, largely because they're already engaged in defending Ukraine and biding their time. Some Americans get it 👇
Steve Schmidt's Prophetic Warning: This is our last chance to stop Trump
Aaron@samueljohnson @andrewstroehlein Trump has wrecked not just everything here at home, but our international standing as well. Passengers trapped in a vehicle, screaming at the locked windows as we head off the cliff the madman is driving us over.
Galad@andrewstroehlein The only way to deal with any of these people is to break their nose.
Cyb3rrunn3r "Berufspessimist"@andrewstroehlein never i think. It´s a shame
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derptron@Em0nM4stodon @andrewstroehlein @realn2s Thing is that it often does. You can satiate the abuser and get them to move on to someone else or some other thing. They will probably come back later, but you have a vacation from their abuse and lots can happen between now and then. Maybe they die. Maybe you get a better opportunity later that will cost less.
It works very well much of the time. We should expect it of people, even during the few times when it just won't work and leads to death.
gbsills@andrewstroehlein European nations need to match Trump's tariffs and add 1%. It will hurt the economy on both sides, and it will help the Chinese economy. Trump and the Republicans will cave.
LukefromDC@gbsills @andrewstroehlein I would say an absolute and total cutoff of all militarily useful goods, maybe even interdiction of 3ed party shipments of strategic minerals to the US.
Last I recall Germany makes pretty good submarines...
xs4me2Say no, punch him on the nose with sanctions and do business with South America (and China).
Dyn Hafren - NSFW 🏴🇪🇺🔞
Ben Pettis
VessOnSecurity@andrewstroehlein
Trump: I'll punish those countries opposing my takeover of Greenland by making Americans pay more for their products.
The EU: We'll retaliate by making *our* citizens pay more for American products, too.
I'm sure there's a universe where all this makes sense.
robert daniel pickardhttps://giftarticle.ft.com/giftarticle/actions/redeem/a9065aba-ab0d-4a52-8915-f4727ff8afb9
ft: EU readies €93bn tariffs in retaliation for Trump’s Greenland threat
gift article link
OdicforceSounds@andrewstroehlein I guess never, since europe history have them too but they didn't become so popular. Or maybe they already know, but instead of directly refuse they use irony to deal with the problem. What can you do against imperialism? Show yourself friendly or start a war.
Toni Aittoniemi@andrewstroehlein Appeasement not only does not work, but trying ”find out and give them what they want” PROVOKES dictators.
What works is consequences. No war on this planet has ended well for the side that gave up.
Consequences hurt. They’re supposed to.
@andrewstroehlein And if you asked me.. Really.
I think USA sticking with NATO is actually more likely if we show them we’re tough. Not the other way around.
We show Trump/MAGA we’re some kind of pushovers, what do they need us for then?
Can’t you all talk bully? Cat got your tongue?
Pete@andrewstroehlein Cut off the entire flow of goods, services, intel, and everything else until Congress reins Trump in and watch how long it takes. Get Mexico and Canada to join the fray and I bet in less than 7 days the worlds problem would be fixed.
Martinus Hoevenaar@andrewstroehlein Instead of useless tariffs, Europe should sell off US treasury bonds and equity. Maybe not all of it, but let's say half. That'd be enough to kick that country into a corner to cry for a while. Okay, it would tear down their economy and make the dollar de facto more useless than it is now, but still. Wouldn't that be fun?
Another nice option would be kicking the US out of Nato. That would hurt their power in more than one way. 🙂
https://fortune.com/2026/01/18/europe-retaliation-8-trillion-sell-america-us-debt-bonds-stocks-trade-war-greenland-trump/
Another nice option would be kicking the US out of Nato. That would hurt their power in more than one way. 🙂
https://fortune.com/2026/01/18/europe-retaliation-8-trillion-sell-america-us-debt-bonds-stocks-trade-war-greenland-trump/
Playing With Fediverse
SellaTheChemist@andrewstroehlein Gideon Rachman makes this point very eloquently in the FT. https://www.ft.com/content/26428440-672f-4f13-a804-01dee8a330fd?shareType=nongift
@andrewstroehlein The leader of a run down, debt ridden country trying to punish world leaders who disagree with him? It's ludicrous.
Very sad when our world leaders are kids in the schoolyard afraid of the school bully. Appeasement just perpetuates the situation.
Leaders -unite, lock him in his room & become stronger together. Dump US bonds, remove US military bases from your shores, be resilient.
As for us- there are always (better, cheaper, healthier) alternatives to US products. Go US free