@thibaultamartin @postmarketOS

The last time I checked postmarketOS, it was a hacky hobby project not being able to use it on daily base, because almost nothing worked.

And the only usable messenger – if you want to connect with normies – is Signal and because it's the desktop version, it will look weird and UE is bad using desktop versions on mobile devices.

Do you use postmarketOS on a daily base?

@opensourceopenmind @thibaultamartin @postmarketOS

hmmm… the Librem 5 costs $800 and I ask myself: For what?

It's not possible to communicate with "normal" people, who gave up their freedom. Without Whatsapp, it's hard to connect with new people, without Signal it's hard to stay in touch with friends and family (and they only use Signal, because I forced them).

I mean, there is a chance that Trump makes more stuff what he does, because in Europe were is already a movement to leave Big Tech companies.

So maybe people will start to use XMPP. At that point postmarketOS might make sense.

But for now it's just a playground for Linux enthusiasts imho.

@opensourceopenmind @thibaultamartin @postmarketOS

I've read that it's the desktop version of Signal and that it is hard to write and not the whole app can be used.

Deltachat might be a good idea, because it's easier to teach people how to use it. There is even a method to only scan a qr code and start.

@utopify_org @thibaultamartin @postmarketOS Yes fully agree on Delta Chat - the easiest onboarding in any messenger.

Regarding Signal on Linux mobile, it and **all** apps on Linux mobile are desktop apps! The Signal desktop sidebars can be collapsed and then it is easy to write.

@opensourceopenmind @utopify_org @thibaultamartin @postmarketOS

I also use a #Librem5 from @purism as my daily phone.

I also use the Signal flatpak, and it works pretty well for me. I zoom out a little bit to have a better experience on the small phone screen.

I also use the upcoming crimson version of #PureOS.

@janvlug @opensourceopenmind @thibaultamartin @postmarketOS @[email protected]

Isn't it a little bit weird to use desktop apps on a mobile phone? I imagine the font is always too small, because if you got the same app, but on a smaller screen, everything must be pretty small.

And if you zoom in, icons and the design might deform and it looks clunky. At least that's what I imagine…

Do you have to zoom on every app, like browsers, too?

@utopify_org @janvlug @thibaultamartin
Screenshot of #SignalDesktop I took last year on #Librem5.

Regarding browsers, the default #FirefoxESR does not need any zooming in, and neither does #GnomeWeb, #Kumo or #AngelFish. On #BraveBrowser, I zoom in 125%.

Btw, being able to use desktop apps on #LinuxMobile is generally considered one of its advantages!

#MobileLinux

@opensourceopenmind @janvlug @thibaultamartin

Okay, I see. I tried it on my notebook, too, but I have to say it's pretty annoying, because many of my contacts (like yours), do not use a profile picture. It's hard to figure out who the icon is and I can only see if, if I open the chat.

Do you know by any chance a smartphone on which pmos will work pretty good? But it should be an older model and not too expensive. (The compatibility data on the wiki might be too old, I don't trust it)

@utopify_org
- #SignalApp lets you mark the chat as unread again after you've opened it.
- My impression was that all the devices in the #postmarketOS community category are older models, except perhaps the #Fairphone 6.
- What do you want the device for? Even for daily driving, people need different features. I, for example, have totally abandoned voice calls, and use a data-only plan, although voice calls do work on the #Librem5 with my provider.

I've seen that the OnePlus 6/6T, Google Pixel 3a and Fairphone 5 are mostly recommended by users. In my experience, the Librem 5 is better supported except for GPS - you need an internet connection and Wi-Fi toggled on.

@opensourceopenmind

Depending on what is possible with postmarketOS, I would like to use it on a daily base and if not, it would be a cool project anyway.

Do these things work?

- Full device encryption: I'll never use a mobile device, which contains my private data without encryption
- Navigation: Is there something like Organic Maps? Offline maps, putting flags on the map, sharing places.
- Wifi: I don't use mobile internet, because almost everywhere I am, Wifi exists
- VPN: Mullvad would be awesome
- Syncthing, BOINC, Element/Matrix: I guess it works like on a desktop pc?

Is there an alternative to Vim to view/edit text files (e.g. Markor on Android), because using Vim on a small glass keyboard sounds pathetic 😄

Is there a website showing "desktop touch alternatives" to their smartphone counterpart? Would be interesting what apps people use on their postmarketOSs?

So in Signal you just open a chat, not knowing who the sender is and then you mark it as unread, if it's "not interesting" or if you don't have time to answer it?

I've tried the mark unread feature on Signal Desktop right now, but I don't know exactly for what it was invented? (except for the above cases).

@opensourceopenmind

I forgot to mention music. 😀

It would be cool to listen to music and podcasts on a postmarketOS device, connecting a bluetooth headset to it.

The Pixel 3 would be cool, because my current one is a Pixel 8, but the wiki says "partial" (red) at audio and gps. But what does it mean?

https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Google_Pixel_3_(google-blueline)