Ebondevil
David Revoy
adra 
also perfectly accurate
@adra Thank you! 💜
To be fair, I could paint this one quickly because I only painted the fox and the parrot over a scene that I had already painted for Reddit when they had their API change controversy back in June 2023. The artwork is hosted somewhere in this directory: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/artworks/misc.html
Rokosun
Peter Hilgenfeld
JohnWQuick question for you. I use Firefox Developer Version extensively for web design projects. Is the same AI slop going to be integrated into that, too?
Mensh123@TheEffekt @davidrevoy Dev Edition is, at the moment, just Firefox Nightly (although it may recive dev-focused updates earlier when those are available). @firefoxwebdevs has a Q&A style thread started with clarifying how there is going to be a “kill switch” — not just for Dev Edition, but for Firefox in general.
PupWrafie
Toon Link 
@davidrevoy HAHAHAHA OH NO
ǝʌɐp@davidrevoy kinda loving robo-parrot even though it doesn't have the best intentions
Neotheta@davidrevoy yep u_u
Dan Morris@davidrevoy I changed to Brave and it's very nice..... but the default search engine still has some AI stuff, but DuckDuckGo is still there.
River, the Andean Puppy@coldfish @davidrevoy
If you're gonna use anything Chromium-based, stick to something barebones, like ungoogled.
Given that Brave's queerphobic CEO was actually the co-founder of Mozilla (EDIT: noticed somebody in the replies already pointed that out in some way or form), you could argue he's basically everything that's wrong with current day Mozilla but multiplied by two.
Dimitar Stoev@coldfish @davidrevoy you may try kagi search. I find it better than brave search ans they seem to care about privacy as well.
just a blåhaj@davidrevoy the firefox is extinguishing itself :(
Marco "Ocramius" Pivetta@davidrevoy posting this here, just because there's still hope: https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115740501470592801
Käpten O. What i would really, really wish from Mozilla is: Make a thing that does one thing and do it right, in this case: Being a browser.
Yes, i know you can disable the AI crap or any other nuisances, but it would be really nice if they would focus on their main product.
CC: @[email protected]
Yes, i know you can disable the AI crap or any other nuisances, but it would be really nice if they would focus on their main product.
CC: @[email protected]
CosmicHorror@ocramius @davidrevoy id have hope if this existed from the beginning of their big AI push. the fact that things have already gotten this bad makes me very hesitant to trust Firefox going forward
Linebyline@ocramius @davidrevoy Hope is one thing, but we're not worried about whether they *will* do the wrong thing in the future. They've already done it. We've been watching them do the wrong thing in real time ever since they put AI "help" in MDN, and since then they've done nothing but lean further into AI hype and dismiss any criticism.
This is what happens when your "nonprofit" gets all its money from its for-profit subsidiary. Investors love AI. Doesn't matter that they're the only ones.
Ondrej Zizka@davidrevoy I do not trust this hysteria about it. Mozilla has been making the right choices for the past 20+ years; I believe it will continue to be so.
Johns@OndrejZizka You mean like when they changed their TOS so they could do whatever they want with your data? (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/firefox-deletes-promise-to-never-sell-personal-data-asks-users-not-to-panic/)
That was when I abandoned them for Waterfox and never looked back.
OGJester has moved@Johns_priv This is Google deciding that maybe their slogan shouldn’t be “don’t be evil” in 2018 all over again. @OndrejZizka
ɩɐɥɔɐɿɐɯ@Johns_priv Hey, +1 for waterfox. 
IsukunA couple of years before, Google was saying things like "Don't be Evil" while promoting a good internet for the users. Today Google is one of the biggest evil tech empire of the world.
I understand the idea of believing in something based on the experience, but everything can change and it's not bad to be aware of some things like the decisions Mozilla is doing these days.
@isukun @davidrevoy Luckily, Firefox is Foss, and if Mozilla screws up, other organizations may make a fork and do better (with less profit). EU could surely fund it.
QCCEクリス@OndrejZizka @davidrevoy I suppose for me, I'm trying to de-google-ify my life and approach away from centralisation, while keeping honourable companies that respect user privacy and security. I've removed myself from Meta & Microsoft (more or less ― work is the problem here). Google's a bit harder because of the connections my gmail has to all lifes necessities ― bank, rent, etc. ― and it's ownership of YouTube.
As such, LibreWolf, Mulvad Browser and a couple of others appear to be good forks.
As such, LibreWolf, Mulvad Browser and a couple of others appear to be good forks.
villon
DessiniFab@davidrevoy qu'est ce qu'il se passe ?
Nath@DessiniFab
Le nouveau pdg de Mozilla a annoncé sa feuille de route pour l'entreprise qui est de se focaliser sur l'ia.
« Pourquoi ruiner Firefox ? » : les internautes s'énervent contre l'arrivée de l'IA
Mozilla a un nouveau PDG et une nouvelle ambition. Anthony Enzor-DeMeo veut transformer le célèbre navigateur libre en un « écosystème » propulsé par l'intelligence artificielle. Une orientation stratégique qui, à peine annoncée, provoque une levée de boucliers chez les fidèles. C'est une nouvelle page qui va
四@davidrevoy I lament that the fox you created is cute, gives it a juxtaposition.
But maybe it’s actually brilliant? After all, we want to save the fox, from itself.
Either way, I’m never paying for browser AI, and if that means ads/privacy invasions I’m out. Such a sad state of affairs. :(
iwein@davidrevoy at first I thought that was Thunderbird who cut herself loose and was flying away. One can dream...
Holger
Vivaldi Browser (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 video PSA: Our roadmap for 2026: #Vivaldi #Browser #Announcement #Roadmap #PSA
Brent Guernsey, Artrocity StudioAI slop is why I dumped firefox for DuckDuckGo.
�@Brentguernsey @davidrevoy pro tip
noai.duckduckgo.com/
Gynux@davidrevoy I'm really not happy with the situation either... :(
Maybe a workaround would be looking at the code and find every single url/ip that FF is supposed to call and block them in a firewall... but that's both not very casual user friendly and time consuming because if it's efficient they would just have to regularly change subdomains or whatever to make things hard.
Maybe a workaround would be looking at the code and find every single url/ip that FF is supposed to call and block them in a firewall... but that's both not very casual user friendly and time consuming because if it's efficient they would just have to regularly change subdomains or whatever to make things hard.
jfml - Jonas Laugs@davidrevoy It would be funny it it wasnt so sad 😭
Neil Kandalgaonkar@davidrevoy For a second I thought Avian Intelligence had escaped confinement
rival@neilk @davidrevoy If that happens it would probably become a little blue whale... 😉
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepSeek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepSeek
@davidrevoy Excellent! 👍
ɹ uɐp 
@davidrevoy this is why you're my favorite 
Jorge Bejarano@davidrevoy accurate
Heliograph@davidrevoy so sad 
Helena B@davidrevoy it’s tragic
Orca 🌻 | 🎀 | 🪁 | 🏴🏳️⚧️@davidrevoy
"Wow nice chainsaw you have in there..." 😅
"Wow nice chainsaw you have in there..." 😅
tekhedd@davidrevoy I'm sure all Mozilla's strategy is not in any way an intentional act of self-sabotage coincident with a period of minimal regulatory oversight.
@davidrevoy I actually like how Firefox has handled AI - small local models, no spying to train AI on my data. For users who insist on using a mainstream online chatbot, it lets them do it without forcing it on others. (And there are more such users than I thought. People who I thought are way too computer illiterate to use AI surprised me by using ChatGPT.)
Firefox lets me translate text locally without big tech spying on my translations. Is this bad because it happens to use neural networks?
Bersl@elgregor Yes, but Mozilla's long history of doing things that piss off its long-standing users and historical allies has to be taken into account.
They could have chosen not to lean into the buzzwords. They could have chosen to release these as extensions (there are probably halfway-decent technical reasons they didn't).
But no, they had their newest corporate dipshit come out and use the term "AI browser" to describe what they want Firefox to become. They woke up that day and yet again chose violence.
@bersl2 Mozilla has a history of being a target of pitchfork-and-torch crowds.
Making these extensions would only make sense if they were preinstalled, as the overwhelming majority of Firefox users don't install any extensions, not even a content blocker.
People are using "AI" as a buzzword, I even saw a literal shampoo use it. I do not believe in the fearmongering that Mozilla Firefox will become a data-stealing browser with user as the product, like OpenAI or Perplexity ones do.
BohwaZ@elgregor @davidrevoy Firefox offline translation is great. But it is absolutely not what they are marketing as "AI". At no point in time they advertised this as AI. So yeah, it's great, and it's not what they mean by adding AI. They have been advertising "ethical AI" since almost 10 years, and there zero thing to show except 35 millions spent on proprietary AI startups.
@bohwaz @davidrevoy Many people (correctly) refer to this kind of features as "AI" and so do various news outlets. I have seen multiple people upset at local models and asking how to delete them. I have seen people advertise Firefox derivatives that remove the local models with the lack of those models described as a feature. I believe this mostly stems from misinformation and this is why I will keep explaining that "AI" is a very broad term that includes good things as well as bad things.
Dregntael@davidrevoy I already moved to LibreWolf on my desktop, but I'm still looking for an alternative for Firefox on my phone.
@davidrevoy I'm currently trying out WebLibre (https://docs.weblibre.eu/), it's nice so far.
@dregntael @davidrevoy I don't know if it's the best thing out there, but I've had decent luck so far with Waterfox.
Janeishly@dregntael I'm using Ironfox on my phone, seems good.
Thomas Sturm@davidrevoy Perfect. Absolutely perfect. 😂
sythys@davidrevoy or capitalism overall.
@davidrevoy Yep. As a user since before it was Firefox, it’s totally disappointing.
And another in a long line decisions messing around with the frills while not dealing with the core product.
Indeed I think I’m coming more and more to the view that opinions like these are correct. Which again is quite disappointing.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/17/opinion_column_firefox/
https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/17/opinion_column_firefox/
Proto Himbo European@davidrevoy Pretty sure they know they're alienating their core users, hoping to get a larger group of less privacy-savvy users.