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πͺπΊIT security in the 90s ...
Irina@Natasha_Jay oh yes! I think we still have one of those somewhere! Not that we have anything that can read 3.5" floppies, of course.
David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)I bought a 3.5β USB floppy drive a year ago to get things off the disks I had in a couple of boxes like that. So far, none of the ones Iβve tried have been readable.
chrisgj198@david_chisnall @irina @Natasha_Jay I have a USB one that can only read 1.44MB disks but not the 800k ones. It might be worth trying a machine with a built-in drive instead.
Daarin@daarin @Natasha_Jay No, it seems that we don't have the box any more either.
drukac@Natasha_Jay
We used to be a proper country.
We used to be a proper country.
Ashwin DixitWe landed men on the Moon using less memory than a single floppy disk and less processing power than a smartphone. Just so AI can burn 10 acres of forest with every poem and painting it generates from stolen art for the decadent amusement of bored bourgeois, while poor people work as janitors and fast-food clerks. "Would you like flies with this BS?"
craignicol@purrperl @drukac @Natasha_Jay important thing about landing on the moon though was that those machines were supported by a massive team of smart people (including the human computers who Buzz Aldrin called out as trusting then with his life)
The machines today are designed to replace humans.
Yeah, those were much anticipated, but the first batch bombed, because the engineers forgot to make the Sun roof standard with the ejectable seats, and now legal has to pay all those families, and we have to pay legal, and you have to pay us, so the next model will be ready soon, costlier than the last one.
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Baloo Uriza@Natasha_Jay I feel like that was more of a '85-95 thing than anything.
@Natasha_Jay Keyboards and PCs had key locks too, and the key was the same for all of them, I tested it with my friend's keyboard and my key.
@Natasha_Jay Also: The 'turbo' button did nothing at all.
Jhooper@D4lt0n @Natasha_Jay Sometimes it would slow down the computer to make it compliant with the older 4.77 mhz processor clock speeds.
Martin Marconcini@D4lt0n @Natasha_Jay the Turbo Button did something if it was properly wired to the motherboard. It would change the CPU frequency if I correctly recall. The display was just a normal 7-segment and you could decide what to show with jumpers. Most PCs used the CPU clock if possible (66 for a 486Dx2) or HI/LO, because those fit in the two digits you could set (later cases came w 3 digits as seen on the pic)
But it did work! My first job was putting generic PCs together at a local computer shop.
Lulu π ΧΧΧΧ@Natasha_Jay How nostalgic!
Sami Lehtinen@Natasha_Jay Most of those boxes were so flexible, that you could get it open without key even breaking anything. And of course lock picking that lock with paper clip was actually trivial.
Timo GrΓΌn@Natasha_Jay
The Windows 3 netBEUI network didnβt distinguish between what was on your computer and the rest of the network or the internet, once it was available. It was all directly accessible.
The Windows 3 netBEUI network didnβt distinguish between what was on your computer and the rest of the network or the internet, once it was available. It was all directly accessible.
SNMP ( "Simple" Network Management Protocol ) was so simple, that it did not have any security. Anyone across the Internet could reach out and check your CPU load or take its temperature.
No way. This is news to me! π΅
@purrperl @Natasha_Jay
Absolutely. Originally, anyone on the network had full read/write/modify to your full Windows file system. Thatβs what initially promoted the development of 3rd party firewalls. The first serious one was ZoneAlarm, which was essential equipment until Microsoft finally added firewall functionality to Windows XP, and even then it wasnβt very good.
Absolutely. Originally, anyone on the network had full read/write/modify to your full Windows file system. Thatβs what initially promoted the development of 3rd party firewalls. The first serious one was ZoneAlarm, which was essential equipment until Microsoft finally added firewall functionality to Windows XP, and even then it wasnβt very good.
I was spoiled, sitting behind a GNU/Linux campus-wide firewall at ( https://stevens.edu/ ). Soon gravitated towards the FOSS world, never plumbed the murky world of closed source. If one can clone & improve the capabilities of any closed technology, why bother studying its precious innards?
As a kid, I would take broken devices apart to investigate. By the time I diagnosed the issue, I would be daydreaming of a better version of the device, leaving this one in pieces.
Dean WΒ―\_(γ)_/Β―
Breizh@Natasha_Jay Well, itβs probably safer than now, when you see the number of data breaches today.
Good luck hacking remotely these floppies now :D
Eric Vitiello@Natasha_Jay it was a simpler time
Georg Bloemen@Natasha_Jay
Hatte ich 2 davon.
Hatte ich 2 davon.
Clockwork βοΈβοΈYeah good luck hackers opening that from the other side of the continent π
you're all idiots@Natasha_Jay those floppies πΎ are upside down!
mogwai@idiot @Natasha_Jay Yeah, what kind of psycho puts floppies upside down in the storage box? π
Heiner Toenne@Natasha_Jay kennt man noch. Disketten, normal im BΓΌro auf dem Schreibtisch.
AnneH@Natasha_Jay Threw one away not long ago.
neocolapsar@Natasha_Jay π What a classic. I never had one of these, but I used to see them around.
Hassmeister@Natasha_Jay I had one too π
Jesus MichaΕ "Le Sigh" π (he)@Natasha_Jay, at least floppies couldn't escape.
bewitchedmind@Natasha_Jay A photograph of a locked transparent case of beige 3.5 inch floppy disks *WITH THE KEY STILL IN THE LOCK*. #ALT4you
Roelof@bewitchedmind @Natasha_Jay well, before you went home, you could lock the case, so no floppies could be stolen.
Ow, wait, the whole case...
Ow, wait, the whole case...
Pia Herself 
@roheve The only thing it did, was to prevent younger siblings taking them and poking the media with their fingers.
Dave@Natasha_Jay They cant't get the data if they can't physical grab the disk right! π€£
technoid_@Natasha_Jay Isn't that the same key for multi devices with bad locks?
Was a 751 if I remember. Same key for my RV's kitchen access cover.
Russell Garner@tosbourn aye and was a retailer the size of Marks and Spencer ransomwared when we locked away floppy disks? It was not, sir
Martin Seeger@Natasha_Jay Yep, my treasure of C64 games is most heavily protected.
@daarin @Natasha_Jay It is, because I lost the key π³
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@Natasha_Jay I can't think of anyone really protecting their disks with the lock, these things were primarily dust covers.
Besides, I can get one open with a paper clip in like 5 seconds.
Peter π»@Natasha_Jay More like if you drop the box you donΒ΄t have to go find and sort all the disks inside the box.
maarten brouwers@Natasha_Jay they would also self destroy after a few years.
Juliano@Natasha_Jay meu deeeeeeus, tinha um desses no meu primeiro emprego!
π½πππ πΌπππππππππ@Natasha_Jay I think I might even still have that same disk storage box filled with Borland C++ disks in a closet somewhere π
@Natasha_Jay to be fair, those things clicked and clacked around like crazy when you handled them, and the use cases I'd heard of for them was mostly accountability (you'd have a big case like this of blank disks at a manager desk for making approved copies of a bunch of documents that could then be sent instead a stack of papers.) I'm sure they made for decent digitized filing cabinets too, though I've heard those kinds of disks had a high failure rate if used too frequently.
Matt Boehm@Natasha_Jay
In the 90s that was the whole Internet.
In the 90s that was the whole Internet.
Jonathan Snyder@Natasha_Jay I trust that more nowadays than a lot of these 3rd party sites promising to protect my data. lol
klausfiend has moved@Natasha_Jay lol ... also copy protection
prozacchiwawa@Natasha_Jay
the unironically effective part of this was not actually labeling the floppies.
the unironically effective part of this was not actually labeling the floppies.
A. R. Younce@Natasha_Jay Just, for a moment, think about the person who very earnestly had that key on their key ring. Driving around with it. Putting it on the valet at home. Taking it to Buffalo Wild Wings without a second thought.
VulcanTourist... and I always removed the locks. π€·ββοΈ