Personally I don't use systemd because I'm more familiar with Slackware's traditional init, and not for any bullshit political reasons. That said, if I wanna use systemd-free Debian forks, should I go with:
Devuan, which is non-political but has a userbase of anti-woke losers,
or antiX, which is proudly anti-fascist but isn't quite as suitabe for a general-purpose desktop?
@TronNerd82 I know basically nothing about either, but Devuan feels offputting to me precisely because they do nothing to discourage shitty people. ('Apolitical' almost always translates to right-wing, effectively if not intentionally.) If I had to choose I'd try AntiX, because you know that the community is made up of people comfortable with associating with anti-fascists.
Having said that, is there a reason not to just use Debian? I _believe_ it's possible to remove systemd: I haven't tried it personally, and it probably requires a little more manual hacking than the default, but if you're comfortable with Slckware I should think it'd be fine.
@benjamineskola That's a fair take.
Also yeah, it is possible to remove systemd from upstream Debian, it's just apparently a bit of a hassle because of how tightly systemd is integrated into Debian. I might try doing that for funsies, but if that doesn't pan out, there's always antiX.
And yeah, sadly a lot of Devuan's userbase is pretty bad, even if the devs don't intend for that to happen. I guess one could always use it without associating with the bad parts of the community.
@benjamineskola Thanks to this page on the Debian wiki ( https://wiki.debian.org/Init ), I was successfully able to get sysvinit easily installed on regular ol' Debian Trixie. It's quite nice, actually.
I'm sure antiX makes it easier to just get right into it, but something about upstream Debian running a more preferred init system is just cool to me.
@TronNerd82 I'd recommend MX Linux with SysV init. I've been using it as a daily driver, general purpose desktop for several months now. (I've been distro-hopping as Ubuntu is increasingly giving me the ick. I've been using a flavour of Ubuntu as my daily driver since Dapper Drake.) I'm using MX with XFCE. I've not had any issues - it's very polished.
For example, today I plugged in a MiraBox HDMI to USB3 (not C) converter, and I have perfect sound and video from VLC and OBS.
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