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The fact that far too many people cannot recognize fascism unless it looks exactly like Nazi Germany is very dangerous.
smells of bikes@Strandjunker subst/cannot/will not/
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Really? Over here we always just presumed those were the closet Nazis. 
Martina Neumayer@Strandjunker More dangerous, and at the same time absurd, is sweeping everything under the guise of fascism. Even the slightest disagreement with something. People with their own opinions, capable of independent thought, have recently been frequently labeled nazism out of hand, because it's become customary to label anyone (and anything) who is inconvenient to the prevailing current, trend, fashion, political views, ideologies etc. That's pretty scary, imho.
Grow Fediverse@MartinaNeumayer @Strandjunker I would not classify false positives as being most prevailant.
@growfediverse I didn't classified anything. I only described what's actually going on especially in the Germany and few other european (eu) countries for some long time. People got "stamped" like the proverbial herds of cows in the pasture. And these are just ordinary, normal people. Their only mistake is daring to voice their thoughts carelessly. I've lived in this country long enough to see things like this firsthand, practically every day.
✨buff dog himbo✨@MartinaNeumayer @growfediverse @Strandjunker or maybe a lot of normal average germans just happen to hold a lot of views that are friendly to fascist environments? That's the case in the US as well. At this juncture (in both countries) hearing someone say "not everyone you disagree with is a nazi" sounds like they are yet another person who can't detect fascism except when it's literally goosestepping and heiling.
Die Welt ist@MartinaNeumayer
> their own opinions
Which opinions?
Hilary@MartinaNeumayer @Strandjunker
Have you actually noticed what has been happening in the USA lately?
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And this is exactly what was mentioned earlier. Some idiot comes along and labels someone they don't even know. That's exactly the vibe. And it's precisely these kind of mindless idiots who do it. Bravo, you! Now go back to the hole you crawled out of.
And this is exactly what was mentioned earlier. Some idiot comes along and labels someone they don't even know. That's exactly the vibe. And it's precisely these kind of mindless idiots who do it. Bravo, you! Now go back to the hole you crawled out of.
Deb Nam-Krane@Strandjunker yeah...especially since it was invented somewhere else...?
High intensity squirrel 🏳️⚧️I went to see a production of Cabaret (spoilers ahead!) last year and the number of people who audibly “gasped” when the character that was in the very first scene and was obviously a nazi took off his jacket at the end of Act I revealing a nazi armband was way too damn many : /
Like this was a surprise to you? Really? And I’m willing to bet the majority of people left that show fully clueless about seeing the parallels in our current time period 🤦♀️
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Elizabeth Eiler@Strandjunker Well, since the U.S. now bears such a striking likeness to late 1930’s Germany that Hitler would be right at home, that should make it easier for the deliberately ignorant.
@ElizabethEiler @Strandjunker it doesn't lol
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Pēteris Krišjānis@Strandjunker I feel that is not the case.
They will use difference as argument that they are different, while actually driving same goals.
They will use difference as argument that they are different, while actually driving same goals.
The Cyberwitch@peteriskrisjanis my new favorite phrase is "distinction without a difference."
Fabiano Celentano@Strandjunker most Americans now seem unable or unwilling to recognise fascism even when it looks exactly like Nazi Germany
James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺@Strandjunker Yes they're looking at history backwards, assuming the conclusion arrives first, announced decisively, as though the death camps came first and everyone knew.
sanpan@freequaybuoy @Strandjunker This 100%, but it´s also got to do something with the missing moustache. Without it? Unrecognizable...
@sanpan @Strandjunker Ha! I genuinely think they think unless they're wearing the exact same uniforms with the same red armbands it can't be fascism, they say, in their red hats
Robert J. Berger@Strandjunker Well,unfortunately it won’t be long till it’s pretty close to it looking pretty much like Nazi Germany if Trump and his fascist minions aren’t stopped soon.
Jack the Waterlogged Count@Strandjunker "Hail victory" sounds totally different in the unoriginal Americanese.
geolaw@Strandjunker Italy's Mussolini argued he invented fascism before Hitler
Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC@Strandjunker Many people here in Germany don't recognise fascism unless it looks exactly like 1930s National Socialism. If the fascists use a slightly different vocabulary and don't wear SS or SA uniforms, you can still fool people into thinking that modern day right-wing populism is something entirely new and actually good for the country.
KnowAttitude@Strandjunker
"The past never repeats, but it does instruct -- and it instructs everyone."
https://snyder.substack.com/p/self-terrorism
"The past never repeats, but it does instruct -- and it instructs everyone."
https://snyder.substack.com/p/self-terrorism
Tango793@Strandjunker They don;t really teach history in schools any more.
MeKobi@Strandjunker very true
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Emmanuel Goldstein@Strandjunker The problem is that most young Americans have no clue what Nazi Germany looked like other than from watching it being portrayed in Hollywood movies (that's not what it looked like).
David W. Jones@Strandjunker And those (sadly) many young people that don't see swastikas as emblems of fascism...My uncle landed in France on D-Day, fought fascists across Europe. He would be massively appalled at people supporting fascism now!
Anton@Strandjunker I did not even know the definition of fascism until people started applying the term to the modern USA. Then I went to wikipedia and read. The definition did (essentially) match...
If an average person's education matches mine in this regard, then it's no surprise: we don't even know what to recognize.
Robin Barton@Strandjunker Like all diseases Fascism has many symptoms and appearance
ity [unit X-69] - VIOLENT FUCK@Strandjunker I don't think they could recognize Nazi Germany without the swastikas either
acm@Strandjunker I mean, how much more like them can they look than masked ICE raids?
sigh.
T2R@Strandjunker A lot of people are pretty stupid. So...
Spellbind0127@Strandjunker they could if they tried, but they refused to.
Toni Aittoniemi@Strandjunker They couldn’t recognise their own state looked exactly like the enemy they were supposing in Germany either. Nor does Israel recognise itself doing the same thing. It might be a pattern, not a glitch, that for the insiders fascism always looks like a compassionate system of protection and care.
Ygor@Strandjunker Especially because it's not "unless", it's "until".
Ray 
@Strandjunker I disagree. Many people don't see fascism where it DOES look like fascism, and think everything else is fascism. They even scream for "FREEDOM", what in reality has nothing to do with real freedom.
Zappes@Strandjunker The MAGA could see ICE wearing SS uniforms and they wouldn't get it.
Nickynah@Strandjunker IMO a lot of people like fascism and authoritarianism, they dislike Nazis not because of that, but because of some faint idea of good vs evil.
It has never been about what politicians do, but how people feel about it. Especially in today’s media landscape where killing people in a boat without any hint of due process is celebrated as “justice”
It has never been about what politicians do, but how people feel about it. Especially in today’s media landscape where killing people in a boat without any hint of due process is celebrated as “justice”
Dave Hughes@Strandjunker Are you suggesting DJT isn't as snappy a dresser as Adolf Hitler, or that ICE should get their uniforms from Hugo Boss?
EndlessMason@Strandjunker
Concerning
Concerning
MandaI feel like limiting understanding of fascism to Nazi Germany is just another way to make the problem someone else.
They're revealing that they're fine with hate and othering. As long as they get to stay superior.
They don't recognize or adjust the behavior that goes with the term. They throw around labels and refuse to wear one. Even when it is accurate.
Easydor@Strandjunker And not even then.
Teacher Jason@Strandjunker you know whats even worse? Being told "I don't care."
Irenes (many)@Strandjunker yes. any lasting solution to this problem needs to include teaching people the tools to actually think about it, and telling the stories that help them recognize old hate in new forms.
Mans R@Strandjunker They don't recognise it even when it looks exactly like Nazi Germany in 1936 or so.
Kruku@Strandjunker
It's the uniform, idiots love the uniform on a Nazi. Look at Pinochet; he was hounded to the end of his days.
It's the uniform, idiots love the uniform on a Nazi. Look at Pinochet; he was hounded to the end of his days.
