AmorphousContinuum
Jelly20 years ago, normal people avoided technology and techies would jump on the newest gadgets as soon as they could
now, normal people buy smart toasters & coffee mugs while every techie I know is on the verge of retreating to the forest
I always get a little paranoid when a post of mine travels outside of my friend group, but it's been cool seeing everyone's perspective on technology and how it's changed in recent years. I can definitely relate with most of the comments I've seen lol
Cetraria@JellyTBeagle Except in cybersecurity. Luddites like whoa. I have worked with people who still have flip phones. It just took the rest of tech that long to catch up with the paranoid old farts.
Cavyherd::raises hand::
I've never been an early adopter. It irritates the living shit out of me that I've become as dependent as I have.
Every. Freakin'. Time I'm faced with an update, I just want to crush it with a rock....
Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪@cavyherd @Cetraria @JellyTBeagle This rings true.
I was always an early adopter, now I want to become a Luddite.
I was always an early adopter, now I want to become a Luddite.
@dacig @Cetraria @JellyTBeagle
I've always been, bc it was obvious to me from a very early age where this was headed. It's deeply irritating (in an ironic kind of way) that one can do some very cool things with tech. I've (mostly) managed to avoid getting hooked.
But there was that one little box with a CRT on the front that made it •so• much easier to write fiction....
@cavyherd @dacig @JellyTBeagle I got hooked by the Internet in the eighties, but I also am quoted in an interview online in the 2000s as saying the Internet would likely become an unusable slag heap in ten years.
My therapist was genuinely perplexed when I said meeting people online was the first time I was able to find acceptance, and a place I could avoid bullying. I know that's not people's experience now. The enshittification has been thorough.
@Cetraria @dacig @JellyTBeagle
Your therapist was an ignoramous. Probably very well meaning, but seriously? (I hope this was A While Ago. If it was recent—I would seriously question their bona fides.)
I met one of my two best friends in rec.arts.sf.babylon5 (which dates me/us, yes.)
I had an advantage in being plugged into a segment of #ScienceFiction #fandom that were early adopters (back when it was reasonable to do that). So the transition from RL to The Net was nearly seamless for me. >
@Cetraria @dacig @JellyTBeagle
I've now lost track of a large chunk of that community bc they've all gone over to Bluesky & I refuse to follow, until the issues @pluralistic names are addressed. I am deeply disappointed by them, but OTOH I get it, bc a lot of them are authors, so audience size is an important factor. But that they didn't have the spine to exercise some leadership—well.
People gonna people, whaddya gonna do?
MostlyTato@Cetraria @JellyTBeagle
I was considering going back to a flip phone. Until the UK decided that it will become law for everyone to own a smartphone. 😕
I was considering going back to a flip phone. Until the UK decided that it will become law for everyone to own a smartphone. 😕
varx/social@Cetraria @JellyTBeagle Flip phone crew represent. Mostly been a positive experience, including when I can say "oh, I can't install that" when someone tries to get me to use some bullshit app. 😆
All flip phones now on the market are apparently based on Android, but the lack of app store access and the shitty browser interface means I don't *use* it like a smartphone, which is really what matters to me.
I did end up writing a map webapp that works with my phone: https://lab.brainonfire.net/classicmap/
maggio
Ozzelot 
@varx @Cetraria @JellyTBeagle I'm lucky enough to live in a part of the world where 2G still runs, so I can use a phone from the 90s. (I do not, but I revel in the possibility.)
zbrando@varx HMD/Nokia still makes 4G dumb phones without Android (but there were better OSes for dumb phones in the 2G/3G era)
Cliff'sEsportCorner@Cetraria @JellyTBeagle serious question, are there any flip phone OS that are getting security patches?
@CliffsEsport @JellyTBeagle Not that I know of, but they could be just applying mitigations, having a less and less functional device. I think most of them were relying on security by obscurity.
@Cetraria @JellyTBeagle besides security my personal issue I am very sensitive to screen flicker and basically all phone OLED use low frew PWM which make them unusable by me :/
Abie@temptoetiam @JellyTBeagle I wish I had! My last printer would randomly turn itself on to do a cleaning cycle every day. Scared the absolute s*** out of me every time.
Xoa Gray@JellyTBeagle @volpeon This, 100%. I used to love when new tech came out, now I absolutely dread it. We went from “What cool new thing can this do" to “What awful new garbage will this bring".
@xoagray Yep, and some of it is unfortunately mandatory too 
I've been trying to escape it more when possible too
Adam Jacobs 🇺🇦@JellyTBeagle True. I'm reasonably techie myself, and if something I want is offered as coming with AI, my immediate reaction is "if I pay extra, can I have it without AI?"
@statsguy Same, my phone is likely gonna need to be replaced soon and I dread the upcoming search for a phone that doesn't have it hardbuilt in. I'm just hoping the bubble pops soon and I can avoid this generation of phones entirely
@JellyTBeagle I bought a Cubot phone last year. Not specifically because it doesn't have AI, but because it's the only phone I could find that fits in a shirt pocket.
But as a happy side effect, it doesn't have AI.
AdeptVeritatisBeings, who know how to build a phone, are fired nowadays and will never come back.
Don't bet on a next generation of phones.
There will be different things. And copies of the old technology. Like I still own a feature phone and there are tape decks and turntables available.
Time for the long lasting, open source, easier to repair but a little bit uncomfortable alternatives. Before it will be the only alternative.
Nyan Max@JellyTBeagle I am a teachi 30 ago and I want live in a own farm with my chickens , my handmade bread, etc.
Ellejay 
@maxxcan @JellyTBeagle Growing up next to a farm I might have become a farmer if my family had land.
Really liked helping on the farm as a child.
But looking back I'm no sooo unhappy with my career choice. The work on a farm is quite hard, especially if you have animals, and nowadays not even much less "screen time".
(Picture "borrowed" from https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jim-miller-9358515a_high-tech-ag-this-tractor-cab-is-loaded-activity-7060021509792169984-v9Ho )
Really liked helping on the farm as a child.
But looking back I'm no sooo unhappy with my career choice. The work on a farm is quite hard, especially if you have animals, and nowadays not even much less "screen time".
(Picture "borrowed" from https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jim-miller-9358515a_high-tech-ag-this-tractor-cab-is-loaded-activity-7060021509792169984-v9Ho )
@doppelgrau @JellyTBeagle ok. I know that when I say, I want to work in a farm is like say, I want to live in a wood without someone. It's like a dream, not the reality. Do you know about the permacomputing?
Is that a truck? oh my god, it's like a SpaceX ship.
@maxxcan @JellyTBeagle Right side of a tractor cabin, I guess while planting potatoes.
One screen for the tractor itself, one probably GPS guidance/steering system, two for cameras monitoring the machine, then for controling the planter, probably one controling ferilizer one for documenting what you have done ...
One screen for the tractor itself, one probably GPS guidance/steering system, two for cameras monitoring the machine, then for controling the planter, probably one controling ferilizer one for documenting what you have done ...
Andreas, DJ3EI, he/himIn wrote up a bread baking pamphlet in SGML when the latter was a hot new thing.😆
https://www.famsik.de/brot/ (in German, though)
Troed Sångberg@JellyTBeagle Your friend circles have aged.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/39828-i-ve-come-up-with-a-set-of-rules-that-describe
LP🔸Light up the night@JellyTBeagle a lot of tech *workers* are really burning out on not being able to find a way to turn their skill into rent payments that doesn't help capitalists accelerate social ills, too
Gerard@JellyTBeagle You are 100% correct. I've been in the industry for 20 years and this past week I tooted this which translated would be
Reject: the tech industry
Embrace: entering a forest, laying down and becoming one with the moss
Gerard (@[email protected])
Reject: la indústria tech. Embrace: entrar en un bosque, tumbarse en el suelo y transformarse en uno con el musgo.
Dronn@JellyTBeagle
It depends on the gadget: repairable, linux friendly, sustainable like n900 or steamdeck: hell yes.
Techies have been cautious with devices that lock you in and make you consume instead of create 20 years ago as well (facebook, apple).
there just is rarely good stuff coming up today
It depends on the gadget: repairable, linux friendly, sustainable like n900 or steamdeck: hell yes.
Techies have been cautious with devices that lock you in and make you consume instead of create 20 years ago as well (facebook, apple).
there just is rarely good stuff coming up today
PortabelloBelle🚚🇪🇺🏳️⚧️It is not the tech that did it for me, it was the misuse of it.
I had dreams.
Dreams of a fully connected life, right now though, the idea of a cabin in the forest seems just perfect
arusha@JellyTBeagle
This is so painfully true.
This is so painfully true.
Kyle Memoir 🍉🐧
Simon Brooke@JellyTBeagle Past tense. I *have* retreated to the forest... fifteen years ago.
Nudeln Al Dente 🐘@JellyTBeagle Not all of them, a significant chunk of my engineering department is chugging AI. 🙄
Ω 🌍 Gus Posey@JellyTBeagle Forests kick ass.
Cats Who Code (cursed)@JellyTBeagle I have very few "smart" devices, and the ones I do have are a little creepy tbh
@JellyTBeagle Alexa at 3AM: "ha ha ha"
Beanface42@JellyTBeagle My feeling, word by word!
The forest is the place where I belong now!
The forest is the place where I belong now!
Chrysanthos@JellyTBeagle The forest never lied
StarkRG@JellyTBeagle If I could figure out how to connect to the Internet with a clockwork computer, I would.
HighlandLawyer
@MostlyTato .....can it run Crysis?
@JellyTBeagle
They were clever but not that clever. Maybe it can run Doom though.
They were clever but not that clever. Maybe it can run Doom though.
kessler herd immunity@JellyTBeagle this year i got an unconnected mp3 player, rack mount cd player, and an analog desk phone from the 80s. i don't even have a use case for the phone it just gives me comfort
@kirakira Hell yeah! I still have all my old CDs and DVDs, though I gotta admit that I just ripped them to my home network.
It's still a pretty high-tech solution I suppose, but I'm at least in control of it
Ana Tudor 🐯@JellyTBeagle @kirakira Of course I mostly listen to the .mp3s I ripped. But I have them, they're mine, some of them are signed. You can't get a Spotify account signed at a concert.
I also still use the same phone I got in 2005 (SE W800i).
Even if the world keeps trying to force my hand.
My bank has made its internet banking app only. They told me to just get a smartphone, what's the big deal. Well, maybe a better idea to just get another bank.
Also, concerts with mobile only tickets... 🙄
Blake C. Stacey@JellyTBeagle "And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans."
Mekki@JellyTBeagle Fucking. This.
Jerp@JellyTBeagle I think this explains why I've gotten into woodworking (and mostly with hand tools).
@jerp I wanna get into that someday! Most of my furniture atm is cheaply assembled junk haha
I finally took up gardening last year and found it really rewarding
@JellyTBeagle it takes some time and it's easy to waste wood early on, but it's surprisingly nice how tangible the progress is (and the output, too!).
I wanna learn how to consistently grow herbs and whatnot - I had tried mint and chives and I seem to suck at it. Don't have much space for it either. Maybe I should give it another shot - could set up something with grow lights in my garage.
If I could get to the point of leaf lettuce and cherry tomatoes that would be super nice.
jfml - Jonas Laugs@JellyTBeagle But I think that is party because most people just buy whatever and since everything has bs technology in it nowadays that's what people buy. They just don't care about these "features", they'd buy the the non-"smart" toaster if it was there.
Gramshelper🇨🇦🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🇺🇦😷@JellyTBeagle I am definitely not a techie or a normal person, I guess. I am desperately trying to keep all my low-tech stuff working because I refuse to buy the newest gadgets. Even my car is old by choice. Who needs the fridge to connect to WiFi?🙄 All this tech makes us stupid. We need to use our brains to keep them active, not handing it off to a machine or AI.
CyGO AWAY this is my cave! >:(