Jelly20 years ago, normal people avoided technology and techies would jump on the newest gadgets as soon as they could
now, normal people buy smart toasters & coffee mugs while every techie I know is on the verge of retreating to the forest
Cetraria@JellyTBeagle Except in cybersecurity. Luddites like whoa. I have worked with people who still have flip phones. It just took the rest of tech that long to catch up with the paranoid old farts.
Cavyherd::raises hand::
I've never been an early adopter. It irritates the living shit out of me that I've become as dependent as I have.
Every. Freakin'. Time I'm faced with an update, I just want to crush it with a rock....
Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪@cavyherd @Cetraria @JellyTBeagle This rings true.
I was always an early adopter, now I want to become a Luddite.
I was always an early adopter, now I want to become a Luddite.
@dacig @Cetraria @JellyTBeagle
I've always been, bc it was obvious to me from a very early age where this was headed. It's deeply irritating (in an ironic kind of way) that one can do some very cool things with tech. I've (mostly) managed to avoid getting hooked.
But there was that one little box with a CRT on the front that made it •so• much easier to write fiction....
@cavyherd @dacig @JellyTBeagle I got hooked by the Internet in the eighties, but I also am quoted in an interview online in the 2000s as saying the Internet would likely become an unusable slag heap in ten years.
My therapist was genuinely perplexed when I said meeting people online was the first time I was able to find acceptance, and a place I could avoid bullying. I know that's not people's experience now. The enshittification has been thorough.
@Cetraria @dacig @JellyTBeagle
Your therapist was an ignoramous. Probably very well meaning, but seriously? (I hope this was A While Ago. If it was recent—I would seriously question their bona fides.)
I met one of my two best friends in rec.arts.sf.babylon5 (which dates me/us, yes.)
I had an advantage in being plugged into a segment of #ScienceFiction #fandom that were early adopters (back when it was reasonable to do that). So the transition from RL to The Net was nearly seamless for me. >
@Cetraria @dacig @JellyTBeagle
I've now lost track of a large chunk of that community bc they've all gone over to Bluesky & I refuse to follow, until the issues @pluralistic names are addressed. I am deeply disappointed by them, but OTOH I get it, bc a lot of them are authors, so audience size is an important factor. But that they didn't have the spine to exercise some leadership—well.
People gonna people, whaddya gonna do?
MostlyTato@Cetraria @JellyTBeagle
I was considering going back to a flip phone. Until the UK decided that it will become law for everyone to own a smartphone. 😕
I was considering going back to a flip phone. Until the UK decided that it will become law for everyone to own a smartphone. 😕
varx/social@Cetraria @JellyTBeagle Flip phone crew represent. Mostly been a positive experience, including when I can say "oh, I can't install that" when someone tries to get me to use some bullshit app. 😆
All flip phones now on the market are apparently based on Android, but the lack of app store access and the shitty browser interface means I don't *use* it like a smartphone, which is really what matters to me.
I did end up writing a map webapp that works with my phone: https://lab.brainonfire.net/classicmap/
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@varx @Cetraria @JellyTBeagle I'm lucky enough to live in a part of the world where 2G still runs, so I can use a phone from the 90s. (I do not, but I revel in the possibility.)
zbrando@varx HMD/Nokia still makes 4G dumb phones without Android (but there were better OSes for dumb phones in the 2G/3G era)
Cliff'sEsportCorner@Cetraria @JellyTBeagle serious question, are there any flip phone OS that are getting security patches?
@CliffsEsport @JellyTBeagle Not that I know of, but they could be just applying mitigations, having a less and less functional device. I think most of them were relying on security by obscurity.
@Cetraria @JellyTBeagle besides security my personal issue I am very sensitive to screen flicker and basically all phone OLED use low frew PWM which make them unusable by me :/
Abie@temptoetiam @JellyTBeagle I wish I had! My last printer would randomly turn itself on to do a cleaning cycle every day. Scared the absolute s*** out of me every time.