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Brilux@Vivaldi Great!
Very beautiful post and attached video.
I like #VivaldiBrowser more and more every day
Ω 🌍 Gus Posey@Vivaldi (Would boost with alt-text.)
Sascha Diercks 🇪🇺@Vivaldi Just ditched Edge at work for Vivaldi 🥳
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈@Vivaldi I did! Fuck Chrome!
Scotty Trees@Vivaldi I watched this in Firefox 😜
Vile Lasagna@Vivaldi I'm happily here already and it's pretty great and all but it's been feeling like I'm kind of enjoying my last days for a while ever since Vivaldi announced a ways back they will capitulate to Google's war on adblockers and drop manifest V2 as well
So this ride, unfortunately, won't last
Catweazle@VileLasagna @Vivaldi, as said in other ocassions, any browser will drop Mv2 sooner or later, Mv2 will disappear same as Mv1 in 2013.
In Adblockers Mv3 has a somewhat more limitated filter list (not much) , but has a better security as Mv2.
Manifest V3 vs Manifest V2: Key Advantages
Google's Manifest V3 (MV3) offers several security and performance improvements over Manifest V2 (MV2) for browser extensions:
Security Enhancements
- Implements least-privilege principle by restricting extension permissions
- Prevents extensions from executing remote code downloaded at runtime
- Requires extensions to declare network rules upfront through declarativeNetRequest API
Performance Benefits
- Replaces persistent background processes with ephemeral service workers
- Optimizes resource management for better browser performance
Privacy Protections
- Limits extension access to sensitive browsing data
- Provides stricter privacy protocols to minimize data collection
However, some developers argue these advantages come with tradeoffs:
- Content blockers like uBlock Origin report reduced functionality under MV3's restrictions
- The declarativeNetRequest API has limited URL-matching capabilities compared to MV2's webRequest API
- Developers must rebuild state from storage when service workers restart
@Catweazle @Vivaldi I struggle to believe there is actually any point, from Google's side, when it comes to this other than curbing ad blockers. Everything else is more or less incidental.
And, sure, it looks like every chrome-based browser, at least, will drop it. That'll relegate me to a weird firefox fork of my choosing while that works, forever hoping that servo will become a reality to maybe have choice
But the web without adblockers is unusable and V3 does its job, they don't work proper
@VileLasagna @Vivaldi, yes, adblockers are essential on the web, but as said, no Chromium browsers may support Mv2 somewhat longer, but they also will drop it. Developers can't maintan long time 2 versions of their extensions, because of this, Mv2 will die, yes or yes.
But
- Vivaldi has an inbuild adblocker which works pretty well, except it don't hide it in YT, (currently uBO is also discovered in YouTube), it's a continuous battle.
- The inbuild ad/trackerblocker will not be affected
- Also Mv3 Adblockers, like uBO Lite, AdGuard and Adblock Plus are working fine as they should
- Until now, Vivaldi continue supporting Mv2 as long as possible
- In other extensions not related, it's irrelevant for the user if it is Mv2 or Mv3
There is a lot of panic about the end of Mv2 but it isn't a so big issue as some people think.
Currently I use uBO Lite and don't see any Ad, even not in YouTube, despite to see sometimes an "Adlocker isn't alowed" (also with uBO) but which is fixed with F5.reloading the page.
Kaito@Vivaldi banger
Nohaironheed@Vivaldi been using Vivaldi for a while now and really like it. I try pushing onto everyone I know whenever I get the chance. 😂
MostlyTato@Vivaldi
I enjoy the browser on desktop and mobile and I appreciate the non-ai, anti-crypto stance. However, as a user of an older mobile its disappointing to learn that I'll have to stop using Vivaldi on Android.
Vivaldi's main flaw, and one it can't get around...Chromium browsers will no longer be supported on the version of Android I'm using.
Such a shame as the mobile browsers is actually pretty good. I shall still use it as my second browser on desktop though.
I enjoy the browser on desktop and mobile and I appreciate the non-ai, anti-crypto stance. However, as a user of an older mobile its disappointing to learn that I'll have to stop using Vivaldi on Android.
Vivaldi's main flaw, and one it can't get around...Chromium browsers will no longer be supported on the version of Android I'm using.
Such a shame as the mobile browsers is actually pretty good. I shall still use it as my second browser on desktop though.
hideosnes@Vivaldi i was positively surprised about Vivaldi on desktop. What's your plan about usage of adblockers?
hackillu@Vivaldi If only there was a Firefox version of this. I like Vivaldi, they're my second choice, but they still are on Googles turf.
𝐩fᵣ@pfr @zenbrowser I meant the "no AI" part.
@hackillu @zenbrowser I suppose I place the connection to Google higher in my "avoid" priority than a built in AI UX wrapper that doesn't really do much unless you interact with it. Then again, I use AI so I guess I forfeit any opinion on the topic.
@pfr @zenbrowser Thing is - all are connected to Google. FF is funded by Google, Zen uses this Google funded browser engine as its base, and Vivaldi uses the engine funded and built by Google. I think they are on Google home turf and that seems bad to me. But I still like Vivaldi.
@hackillu not gonna lie, I actually quite like Gnome Web (Epiphany). I use it to create web apps mostly which works really well. With extensions enabled it's actually pretty nice
Dávid Bárdos
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Mobility Matters Bham@Vivaldi Glad you brought this up. I'm getting started with Vivaldi & this screenshot is for the default settings (I think - can't remember if I changed anything). Seems like I could still get caught up in the g-web via the "Google Services"? Can you give more info about these two details? No protection if I uncheck?
It's an old blog post, but we've written about these settings here: https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-powerful-privacy-settings/.
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I don't know about this...
Since year's using DuckDuckGo in Vanadium and
on PC Brave (with Brave search, and Chromium with DuckDuckGo
Didn't use Google search engine for year's.
Heals 