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thermonuclear small claimsThe Inaccessibility Cycle
eestileib (she/hers)So often I'm the only person where I am in a wheelchair.
Spaceship 
@fullfathomfive š Let's make Mastodon and other platforms more accessible for everyone, together 
Jargoggles@fullfathomfive
People need to understand that they are only temporarily abled. Our faculties are fragile. We could lose them in an instant to an accident or just because of our genetics. But even barring that, we will certainly lose them as we age.
Even purely out of selfishness, sooner or later, #accessibility becomes important to *everyone*.
Zoidberg For President
Piper has moved@fullfathomfive See also: covid-aware people.
patrislav ā¾ļø #RIPNatenom
T. T. PerryThis is a #stigma cycle.
Jay@fullfathomfive We need to stamp āIf you build it, they will comeā onto every architect and designerās forehead.
Lauren Weinstein@fullfathomfive Also Account Recovery.
PhoenixSerenity@fullfathomfive The shitty cycle continues & we keep fighting against it āļø
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@fullfathomfive making things accessible for those like wheelchairs also help with scooters and bikes and other wheeled things
Over There@fullfathomfive thereās levels of disability too: my daughter has very high support needs, so activities and facilities that claim to cater for disabled people often donāt cater for her: we need hoists for toiletting, swimming, using beach chairs, etc. she needs a mashed/liquid diet. She needs to avoid infection
I did my best to āmanageā for many years, to give her the best life and involve her in the community, but now I have long covid, and I no longer have the energy
@oftencalledcathy I'm so sorry you have long covid. It sounds like an impossible situation for you as a carer.
It's so shitty that our society decided it was fine to destroy the lives of so many people, because people who have no concept of our interdependence on one another didn't want to be mildly inconvenienced.
@fullfathomfive thank you, luckily Iām a lot better than I was
William BellThe Social Curse of "What You See Is All There Is" comes into play here.
Andreas - RR1426@fullfathomfive thatās exactly how it goesā¦ my son in a #t1d and of course he want to eat lunchmeal together with his friends in 2nd grade. Not a big prob until now the school changed the caterer. And the new caterer is refusing to have a simple chart with nutritions at the mealsā¦ you canāt make this up
Daedalous Ilios@fullfathomfive I'd genuinely like to know why these people think this is acceptable. Why they think that it would harm them in any capacity to have features that help the disabled. But I'm pretty sure the answer is they think it would be a great inconvenience to them.
@daedalousilios I think when they're aware of it they realise how wrong it is, but there's a visibility issue. Out of sight out of mind. Designers won't design for people they don't even know exist.
But this lack of visibility leads to worse outcomes for everyone, not just disabled people, because we know that disability-forward design makes things better for *everyone* (e.g. kerb ramps make streets safer and more accessible for people with strollers, people on bikes, and people with heavy loads).
Robotistry has moved@fullfathomfive @daedalousilios I have long covid and need to pace exertion.
I went to a talk at a building at work and simply getting to the meeting room involved following signs to the stairs, retracing my steps to get to the other end of the building where the elevator was, and crossing the building again on the 2nd to get to the meeting room. By the time I got there I had no spoons left for the meeting.
A year later I was given the job of managing the building. The first thing I did was to renovate for accessibility for people with energy/limiting disorders. I moved the public spaces as close to the front doors as possible and simplified traffic flow through the building. And I made sure there were signs so people didn't waste energy figuring out where to go.
And now the building feels welcoming instead of like it's trying to keep people out. Reducing my exertion burden reduced everyone's exertion burden, even people who didn't realize it was a burden they were carrying.
dorotaC@daedalousilios @fullfathomfive One thing I can think of is because it would cost several tens of thousand of bucks to retrofit the building only for mobility reasons. Never mind making it allergy-friendly.
It's either burn out people and money trying to become accessible, or continue the project as it is.
It's not all malice.
Slegiar "Sleggy" Dryke@fullfathomfive should be offramps for specific circumstances like local businesses or small software groups that don't have the resources and crew numbers available in the immediacy to instantly solve the problems of lacking.....
having just said that, it's less to basically zero of a believable issue with larger companies that absolutely have the financial resources to hire out and solve issues. but I somewhat believe data statements like this are very much double edged swords of both truth, and a lack of patience in current day mindsets.
to put it another way, something can be right and still not fundamentally solvable based on the context of the circumstances. but so much these days is described as black and white when the hard pill to swallow sometimes is "it's complicated"
or to summarize even more....
"Gawd what a fucked up world we live in"
Polly Kraisus@fullfathomfive so tue. Same can be said for the self-perpetuating lack of diversity in many communities. (And I was thinking of the exact same cycle for cyclists and urban planning the other day.)
Chan Chan@fullfathomfive This is worse because invisible disabilities are not even considered as disabilities, merely some inconveniences. @vic
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Rasmus Lindegaard@fullfathomfive so often when people ask "why even write alt texts" this would be the best response.
14mission@fullfathomfive Same cycle applies to bikers, pedestrians, kids walking around the neighborhood...
Ćngela Stella MatutinaRioplatense Spanish version, plural first person + reappropriated slur (disca) because I am disabled + whatever changes I thought made it better (probably wrong so feel free to ignore them).
