maybe this could be avoided if academic papers came with some sort of short summary. if this were provided by the authors, then we wouldn't need to rely on expensive and unreliable tools to generate them. think how convenient it would be if the authors put these summaries right near the start of the paper!!

https://www.sigarch.org/the-role-of-llms-in-academic-reviewing/

The role of LLMs in academic reviewing

Editor’s note: With continuing proliferation of LLMs and their capabilities, academic community started to discuss their potential role in paper reviewing process. Some conferences are alread…

SIGARCH
@regehr just imagine if we actually valued people taking care in their peer reviews and put effort into reducing the amount of other bullshit they have to do so that they could spend actual time on important activities instead of trying to automate away the important stuff
@ricci @regehr ya, this has big "if you think technology can solve your problem, you don't understand technology and you don't understand your problem" energy
@regehr hmm maybe. Could you be a little more concrete about what you’re proposing? Because it seems kind of abstract.
@regehr @amarsaar
Oh, kind of like doing a summary for executives.
@regehr Great idea. They can paste it over the abstract. What is an abstract even supposed to be? Isn't that an art term?
@regehr I even have some thoughts about what we could call them, but I should check with my LLM on whether that's a good name.
@regehr This is such an irritating post. Pure clickbait. I guess someone had to write it first.
@regehr I suppose the text was generated by an LLM, wasn't it?
@regehr obviously what we need is a tl;dr in abstract 🙃

@regehr

"What began as an intriguing toy for autocomplete has evolved into sophisticated tools capable of summarizing research papers, drafting technical arguments, and even simulating expert‑level discussion."

No they bloody haven't, and if you think they have it's because the boosters have successfully gaslighted you.

@regehr i'm worried about the upcoming “rather extreme concrete proposal” that is promised by the editor. (And by the way, how can one be *rather* extreme?)

@regehr perhaps we stop teaching people to write in the most obscure way possible in science

I say that despite having been quite good at it - it's inaccessible to most people, including many other scientists.

Make the 'lay summary' (don't like the word) actually normal language. That almost everyone can understand.

Stop hiding scientific results behind layers of academese, shibboleth and obscurity.

We could have started doing this years ago but no (yes I got the joke)

@regehr Surely the simplest solution would be to have #LLMs write the papers, summarise the papers, attend the conferences, edit the proceedings, and finally read the proceedings?

Why do we need to involve human beings in this loop at all?

#GenAI

@regehr how s that different from abstract section?
@xameer @regehr Yes, It's called an abstract.
They just didn't bracket it:
/s..../s.
FWIW when 'summarising' a paper LLMs often seem to ignore the abstract.
@marjolica @regehr then isn't that a flaw ( read dark pattern) of the llm?

@regehr my head wants to explode, LLMs are legitimately not good at assessing correctness or correspondence between code and natural language...

I have the privilege of being able to just not submit to a venue that asks LLMs to assess correctness of submissions, but that's going to be a mess for junior people if they actually do that

@regehr maybe better abstract?
Louis Agassiz - Wikipedia

@stuartmarks funny, we have a local mountain named for him