I found my stomach laugh of the day.

"Usenet, I have never heard of that VPN provider"

LOL

@paul @stefano

Vixie Private Network?

@gumnos @paul @stefano do you mean paul vixie?
@radhitya that was the intent
@radhitya or should I say "that was the Name of the game…" 😆
@paul “what vpn provider do you use for torrents” or something was the question…?
@an0key I was looking for VPN reviews and came across it. Like all online talk about VPN, there was a sub-thread that delved into torrents, and those usually get a usenet sub-sub thread. I think in that post, the usenet sub-sub thread spun of a sub-sub-sub "..aar" (radaar, sonaar, etc) thread lol.
@paul alt.clueless

@jspath55
They should have asked what it was...but not all folk were raised surrounded by tech.

@paul

@SnowyCA It's not even a tech thing. It's more of a generational joke considering when the web came out, it was kind of baked into everything until AOL made it popular and then eventually killed it and then telecoms followed suit in the 2000s around the time Facebook took off. Now it is a niche techie think. It was pretty much mainstream.

You couldn't be in college in the 90s and early 2000s without using usenet, esp the 90s.

@jspath55

@paul @SnowyCA I started coding on punch cards, pre-internet.

@jspath55 ...to think, the computer those punch cards were going into, if they had the same power and memory of the worse smart phone on the market today, would be the size of a small village or county. lol.

I was using BBS in the 80s. As a kid, I mowed a lot of lawns to buy my first modem for my IBM PC AT.

@SnowyCA

@paul

When I was in school we were still using books to look up logarithmic and trigonometric tables and personal computers were yet to be invented.👵 🤣

@jspath55

@SnowyCA

That brings back memories! I still remember the bright blue cover of my book of log tables. Goodness knows how they calculated and printed that number of digits accurately in the days before pervasive computing. Perhaps they didn't. Perhaps the tables were full of mistakes. I never found any.

@paul @jspath55

@CppGuy
I didn't find any errors either.
"how" Good question.
You got me thinking about it, so I looked it up
"The Napierian logarithms were published first in 1614. E. W. Hobson called it "one of the very greatest scientific discoveries that the world have ever seen"
"John Napier wrote a separate volume describing how he constructed his tables, but held off publication to see how his first book would be received. John died in 1617. His son, Robert, published his father's book, Mirifici Logarithmorum Canonis Constructio (Construction of the Wonderful Canon of Logarithms), with additions by Henry Briggs, in 1619 in Latin[3] and then in 1620 in English.[4]"

Tonight I am going to see if I can find it online

@paul @jspath55

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_logarithms

History of logarithms - Wikipedia

@SnowyCA

Those books are serious mathematical equipment! IIRC, our log books only went to three or four decimal places.

@paul @jspath55

@CppGuy It was so long ago I forgot how many decimal points but yeah, the really old books are quite amazing, eh.

@paul @jspath55

@CppGuy @SnowyCA I'd forgotten all about log books! I was about to add 'feels like something from another century' when I realised yikes, it literally is.
@paul @jspath55

@CiaraNi

I feel like I'm long past my expiry date I am asked 'what is a party line'?, or when I remember there are generations who have never lived without a smart phone.

@CppGuy @paul @jspath55

@SnowyCA

Or, indeed, without a mobile phone of any kind. When were were out, we were incommunicado. It was common to turn up at someone's house, be told "sorry, he's out", and just go away again. It seems inconceivable now.

@CiaraNi @paul @jspath55

@CppGuy

edit to add: Expecting to want a measure of privacy and peace and quiet seems unreasonable to most in today's world. Disconnecting or delaying contact is deemed unacceptable.

yup.
Also, I find it rather disconcerting when faced with outraged folk who demand to know why,
-I didn't answer the phone while away from home
-I didn't check my voicemail when away
Well, I fixed that problem, now I only have to deal with shocked and very confused folk after a few months ago I cancelled my cell service because I refuse to pay more than $100.00 for spotty at best reception in my area. I was fed up with angry people constantly complaining they couldn't reach me because the signal was dropped or just wasn't available.
Now I just say, email me!
I'm done with supporting companies who won't provide decent service yet expect to be paid .

@CiaraNi @paul @jspath55

@SnowyCA context: it was actually a joke-about-the-joke, "alt.clueless", "alt.tasteless.jokes", "alt.religion.kibology" would be names of individual Usenet forums where people write. Given the context I would say @jspath55 's comment was more about nerding out, rather than be actually dismissive.
@paul
@paul I had to look up that term. Old person and non-techie here
@paul bro probably thinks newsgroups are the company that own Fox News
@paul ...i should set up usenet again
@0x4d6165 @paul I legit would love for text usenet to come back. I still use usenet fairly regularly, but only for nzb files, which feels like buying an old bank computer just to play nethack.
@paul Said it at work today and a colleague thought I said "Hughesnet".

@paul

sure. VPN. Virtual Professionals Network. mostly virtual lawyers but some other professions regularly represented in posts there. :)

@paul_ipv6 @paul I thought that was linkedin... :B
@paul We are old here in Mastodon
@paul what's Gopher? 😉
@paul we need to make usenets a thing again.
@paul
Kids today. 🙄
Don’t even know how to use a fucking phone. 🤣
@paul I think they need this emoji over there: