i'd take this UI any day over garbage spyware like win11.

#unix #history #desktop

@nixCraft I rather liked this UI.
@dgar @nixCraft I'll just leave this here... #Amiga #AmigaOS
@dgar @nixCraft And another comparison. Here's how GEOS on the Commodore 128 stacks up to Windows 11:

βœ… Only needs 128 kb RAM

βœ… No spyware

βœ… No adware

βœ… Word processing, spreadsheets, desktop publishing, and paint without an LLM

βœ… Can natively play C64 games by using the command GO64

βœ… Can also be booted into CP/M

@aj @dgar @nixCraft RISC OS had anti-aliased text in 1993. Mac OS gained it in 2000 and Windows in 2001.
@Kroc @aj @dgar @nixCraft RISC OS had ARM support in 1987. macOS gained it in 2020 and Windows … errr … it's complicated.
@deBaer @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft In fairness, RISC OS had a massive headstart in that it was the OS thst came pre-installed on the Acorn Archimedes.

Why's that significant?

Well, the Archimedes architecture was basically an ARM CPU, with a GPU and a sound chip. Often as what we'd now describe as a system on a chip.

Well, it took a few decades, but basically the Archimedes architecture won.

Pretty much every smartphone and tablet is basically a superpowered Archimedes. So is every new Mac. All Raspberry Pis. Most Chromebooks.

Even many Windows or Linux PCs are Archimedes!

We all use the Archimedes now!
@aj @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft What many people don't know: In the early 90s, you could buy an Archimedes for around Β£699 that could emulate an (x86) PC that would cost at least twice that amount _in_software_! I think that says everything about ARM's performance per money.
@deBaer @aj @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft Sadly this is not true. The Acorn RiscPC had an add on PC card that allowed it to run PC software but it did so with an actual 486 chip.
Chris's Acorns: Acorn ACA56 x86 Card

@danbarber @deBaer @aj @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft Before the RISC PC, there was the Acorn PC emulator.
@armbytes @danbarber @deBaer @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft I'm curious how well the Archimedes emulated a PC?

Was it comparable in speed to the PCs it was emulating?

Was it usable for productivity software? What about games?
@aj @armbytes @deBaer @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft I suspect it wasn't comparable speed wise, but I could be wrong. Going to try it out in an emulator.

@danbarber @aj @armbytes @deBaer @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft It was very significantly faster. I tested them. I know.

You needed to spend A LOT of money on an x86 machine to run x86 code faster than a relatively cheap Archimedes could run it in emulation.

It could also compute factorial 1000 in two seconds at a time when the Β£20,000 AI workstation on which I was employed to work took twenty minutes to run the same code.

@simon_brooke @danbarber @aj @armbytes @deBaer @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft

The ARM 2 was a nice CPU: clean well-thought-out instruction set, and what seemed like a generous bounty of 32-bit registers at the time (16 of them!), and yes, it was unusually fast compared to the x86 and 68xxx chips available around the same time.

@aj @danbarber @deBaer @Kroc @dgar @nixCraft I ran it on my 4Mb A5000 and it worked well. I recall that I didn't push it or use it for games; I just moved files to disk for use on a PC elsewhere.