Mike Shewardi don't think enough people realize that when you make a phone call to someone else, the other phone literally stops what it is doing and makes a noise and shakes, it's very distracting, please do not make phone calls
InfoSecSherpa@SecureOwl there’s a setting for that lol
Andre Louis@SecureOwl I really, really do not like phone calls.
Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 
Greg Haase@SecureOwl yet we still call them "phones"
ticho@SecureOwl I'm just wondering that if we showed this rant to someone maybe 20 or 30 years ago, what would they think. :)
Arbres@ticho @SecureOwl #GenX here. I think not using a phone as a phone is silly.
Speaking is far more efficient than texting.
I hate texting.
Speaking is far more efficient than texting.
I hate texting.
jpl99I bought this super cool pocket computer that came with a phone app pre-installed.
Now people think they can just disturb me whenever they feel like.
Think I'll uninstall the app.
Ciggy Bringer of SmokeThats the effing rub of the whole thing - sure, you can text on your own time and have asynch convos and its all so lovely until you wind up drawing a 10 minute phone convo out into a 4 hour text back and forth that somehow contains less actionables or todos than the call would.
Inverse ATASCII@arbres @ticho @SecureOwl amen. Who ever said a ringing phone has to be answered? Any phone I have is solely for my convenience, not the callers, and is treated as such. If I feel like seeing why it’s ringing I will. If I feel like answering I will, otherwise I just go about my tasks.
Mother BonesI would take out my Nextel bar and page you so you could hear what I had to say about it on the walkie-talkie channel. 😌
One-and-only Allen Versfeld@ticho @SecureOwl Well... 20 or 30 years ago the phone was just a phone. It was either on a table or in your pocket. Whereas now, it's a portable computer that you're using for all sorts of things. Old school phone calls didn't turn off your TV show, or quit your games, they made a noise but they didn't yank the plug so aggressively on whatever you were doing.
@uastronomer @SecureOwl That... that was my point.
@ticho @SecureOwl *apologetic nod* yeah I was responding to some of the other comments and replied in the wrong place :(
CatSalad🐈🥗 (D.Burch) 
@SecureOwl So rude! (making my pocket thingie ring)
zrb@SecureOwl nothing makes me more instantly irritated than hearing my ringtone go off
LevkaPhones are so unnatural. If God had wanted us to talk across town She's have given us long lips.
Mark Whybird@LevZadov @SecureOwl Some of us DO have quite long lips, though…
Voracious ReaderEven worse, when someone calls you, they expect you to literally stop what you are doing and make a conversation with them! It's very distracting, and incredibly inconvenient. Please do not make phone calls.
@lnlyisol @SecureOwl
Phones aren't for the caller's convenience.
That's why answering machines were invented.
Plus, some people didn't bother.
If nobody was home, then tough.
I like the old ways.
twoprops@SecureOwl The app stores really need to stop allowing those awful "phone call" apps
Mattias Eriksson 🦀🚵♂️⛵@SecureOwl
Yes, instead chop up the information in 20 character pieces that you send me one at the time causing my phone to ding a thousand times. That is not annoying at all.
Yes, instead chop up the information in 20 character pieces that you send me one at the time causing my phone to ding a thousand times. That is not annoying at all.
Pippa 🌈@snaggen @SecureOwl i cannot imagine having my phone on the ding ding ding setting ever 😰
diana 🏳️⚧️🦋🌱If someone needs to make a phone call, they should schedule the event in advance. Or at least a text message for the phone call agenda. What is this, the 1980's?
@dianea @SecureOwl It’s only fair that they post a letter warning of the coming text to schedule the phone call, too.
Will 🏳️🌈@dianea @SecureOwl I actually employ this with my friends and family. They frequently forget such protocol, but it's out there.
Makes me feel less bad if I ignore an unexpected call for my own peace.
Mx. Eddie R@SecureOwl
Phones only do that when I am very distressed.
Phones only do that when I am very distressed.
Space Hobo@SecureOwl We used to literally have etiquette around this. We would avoid calling people during common dinnertimes, because the loud ringing of the home phone would interrupt a family meal.
Robin@spacehobo @SecureOwl
I remember a friend of mine would always call right at dinner time (I think his family did it a bit earlier than we did), after some weeks I was told to make him call a half hour later.
Need to go to London again and visit him and his wife, amongst others.
@eythian @spacehobo @SecureOwl Thank whatever god(s?) - another "old" person.
The problem is that kids don't learn about phone etiquette (well. how?) and since people have their phones with them all the time we expect them to answer right away. There's a right not to pick up. Use it.
By all means, use the phone. A two minute call saves like twenty messages.
Just don't call me during dinner or the kids' (or my) bed time. I won't answer the phone.
Neither will I answer messages right away.
aburka 🫣@spacehobo @SecureOwl well yeah I wouldn't call at dinner time (interpreted liberally due to possible cultural differences) because they might be having dinner. And then after that it might be too late! But earlier in the day they're probably at work or school, and before that I wouldn't want to call too early. So you see there's actually no time that I could ever make a phone call.
Wulfric@SecureOwl Strange. I do the same thing.
BlueTeamSherpa 
@SecureOwl then put your phone on do not disturb, or set it to send all calls to voicemail.
Wandering HermitPhone calls are power plays. They say "what I want is more important than whatever you were doing."
Mark BryantI never answer my phone. 😁
They all call via Teams now. 😟
(And you are 100% correct.)
I had to use Teams for a project with NASA. My conclusion is that Teams is deeply and irremediably Evil.
Jargoggles@SecureOwl
I am constantly expected to accommodate neurotypical preferences in virtually all aspects of my life. I'm so, so tired all the time. Please do not make phone calls.
I am constantly expected to accommodate neurotypical preferences in virtually all aspects of my life. I'm so, so tired all the time. Please do not make phone calls.
@jargoggles @SecureOwl Same here.
And I've seen discussion on this that NTs shouldn't have to accommodate us NDs world coping skills.
Sarah E Bourne@SecureOwl I send a text: Is this a good time for a phone call? If I don't get a reply, I know it's not a good time.
@sbourne @SecureOwl With my mom, I send her a text asking if talking at X time will be good. Invariably, she calls me as soon as she gets the text instead of the time I've blocked out to be prepared for, carefully scripted. Really puts me out of sorts for quite a while.
@AncTreat5358 @SecureOwl How annoying! If she's consistent that way, maybe you can plan around that somehow.
@sbourne @SecureOwl Good idea. For her, it can be seconds to days before she reads a text, so it would be hard to plan on the expected untimebound call.
@AncTreat5358 @SecureOwl Moms, watcha gonna do…
@sbourne @SecureOwl For real!
@SecureOwl Thank you for raising public awareness of this distressing issue. I have experienced this myself and frankly never want to again!
ChookMother 🇦🇺🦘@SecureOwl ... and I don't like phone calls anyway, so just stop.
Lauren Weinstein@SecureOwl You are permitted to (a) turn off vibration and/or (b) put phones in Do Not Disturb mode.
@lauren @SecureOwl That.
And maybe try to not have the cell phone with you every waking hour..... (this helps me)
@drchaos @SecureOwl In fact, I keep my smartphone turned off unless I explicitly need it for a specific purpose. I check for important email, vm, etc. at intervals.
Schall und Rauch@lauren @drchaos @SecureOwl My smartphone doesn't have a SIM and my real phone has been in silent mode for years.
Some people get used to it, others will just give up at some point.
My wive though expects me to take the phone with me when I leave the house. Took me some time to get used to that!
econads@ernestoDuracelli
Ooooh 2 phones. That could be a concept.
@econads @ernestoDuracelli @lauren @SecureOwl yeah, I have that. One phone with a number only my friends have. The other one is off unless needed (e.g. for work, forwarded my desk phone to it).
What surprised me is that due to my sports watch with some smart features (can show text/chat messages) I use my phone less randomly. Having read the text and not having to reply immediately means I don't pull out the phone, look at the message and then browse/doom scroll
@drchaos
Ha! That's a big problem I have. Get out my phone to do something, see notifications, 15 minutes later still haven't done what I set out to do. What even was it?
I was thinking an app which forced you to write down what you want to do every time you open your phone might help.
@ernestoDuracelli @drchaos @SecureOwl Every mobile phone has a SIM, either a physical one or an eSIM. The physical one can be removed, the eSIM can be disabled.
primalmotion@SecureOwl the thing is: it's phone. you're not supposed to be glued to your phone all day
TruckStopSantaClaus@SecureOwl nah go ahead, I'm probably not doing anything important on mine
🐜@SecureOwl /me calls u 🙀
@SecureOwl doesn’t have to. Learn to use your tech.