Pelican Dock Music
Alan FerrierWell played.
GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺@alanferrier This is brilliant.
Arvin
Some Sandwiches ARE Heroes 👀Wow. As someone who grew up on the Middle Loch of Pearl Harbor, whose families' homes were strafed by Japanese planes, whose Dad was chased by a Zero while driving his car by Wheeler, whose uncle was a first responder diving into the burning oil filled waters as part of the mobilized Hawai'ian Territorial Guard, nothing energizes a people like an attack on home soil by an enemy nation.
This will not end here.
Supermoosie@pattykimura
Don't forget Iran used to be a democracy.
Until they wanted to nationalise oil. As US and British oil companies were taking the oil with little local benifit.
The US and British organised a coup and installed a new leader, which lead them down the path of anti west religious leaders and treatment of woman, they have today.
Consequences can be felt many many decades later
ferricoxideNothing energizes a people like an attack on home soil by an enemy nation.Add in "by an enemy nation you weren't already formally at war with".
[edit: post was orignally via phone and autocorrect had changed "weren't" to "we're"]
[edit: post was orignally via phone and autocorrect had changed "weren't" to "we're"]
@ferricoxide Sorry? The US denies it is at war with Iran after bombing Iran. Vance says it depends on what war means. There has been no legal declaration of War by Congress. This qualifies as a sneak attack by Trump without formal notice.
Did I miss something?
Did I miss something?
Wayne Werner@pattykimura @ferricoxide is the US at war with Iran?
It depends on what your definition of is is
@ketmorco @ferricoxide Who knew JD's real lawyer daddy was Bill Clinton, while his sugar daddy is Peter Theil, and his Pope is Pope Donald XXXIV, the Anti-Christ.
Going T. Maine@alanferrier I like the sentiment, I don’t understand fully why the time for this is now and not those other times when we have done air strikes.
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen@going_to_maine @alanferrier The point I think is that this case could escalate to a world war? But by the time Japan dragged the US into it, that war had already been a world war for a few years.
@toriver @alanferrier I think the bigger difference here that I was thinking of was that the earlier strikes have been against terrorists, etc., while this is very specifically an attack on a government.
sanpan@alanferrier I doubt Trump uses Mastodon, otherwise this might have started a war with Japan.
Juho MäntysaloPerhaps truth.social is still federated enough through relays that this gets there eventually?
Meadow
Julio J. 🀲@sanpan @alanferrier well, technically he does because truth.social is basically mastodon with a "made in America" label on top of it. Not joking here.
crazyeddie@sanpan @alanferrier Him and his cohorts most certainly use mastodon. Truth social is one of the many such servers that much of the federation has blocked. It's a fork of mastodon.
Jonathan L Keeton
Charlie Phillips/Dolphinchaz
ArchaeoIain@alanferrier that sounds like something that would echo through the ages
Michel PatriceBut they were not at war with the U.S., they were at war with the port of Pearl Harbor.
Magnus Ahltorp@MichelPatrice @alanferrier But Japan actually declared war, even if it was delivered later than it was supposed to.
WELKER: Is the United States now at war with Iran?
JD VANCE: No. We're not at war with Iran. We're at war with Iran's nuclear program.
(J.D. Vance thinks that we're as stupid as the MAGA cultists.)
Kinene⭐🐻@alanferrier Excellent snark.
Erik Haugen@alanferrier Took our nuclear program years to recover.
Ishitonyoutankie@alanferrier more like Toho Hideki but 10/10 still
Dave@Ishitonyoutankie @alanferrier That's Netanyahu. Trump's just going along with everything Netanyahu does like Hirohito did with Tojo. That's why it was Tojo strung up in 1948, not Hirohito.
See also: Gaza genocide and the Rape of Nanjing.
JustSaying@alanferrier didn't the country they attacked end up responding with 2 nuclear bombs?
Al ⁂@ArrestJK @alanferrier which is why Iran “can’t have nuclear weapons”. The US and it’s allies need to be able to attack other countries with impunity.
@alpinefolk @alanferrier Yes no fan of Iran GOVT certainly NOT in favour of them having nukes, but they don't and have inspections to ensure they don't. Israel and US both do...
@ArrestJK @alanferrier I’m not a fan of the Iranian Govt either and I don’t think any country should have nukes. However I don’t like the US or Israeli govt either.
Countries shouldn’t have different rights depending on whether we agree with them or not.
Countries shouldn’t have different rights depending on whether we agree with them or not.
Jeremy Buffer Jones 
@alpinefolk @ArrestJK @alanferrier
If you knew anything about Iran you would know they would never use a nuke to attack another country, Iran hasn’t attacked another sovereign state in over 200 years.
But if Israel and USA have proven anything they have made it blatantly obvious why Iran needs a nuclear deterrent now more than ever. Particularly after being unlawfully attacked in recent weeks and considering they are the only country of the seven wars in seven years yet to be destroyed by the Israel US terror campaign.
tarzan@jeremy_pm @alpinefolk @ArrestJK @alanferrier
In 2002 George Bush coined the phrase 'axis of evil' to mean Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. He then ordered the invasion of Iraq.
Three years later, North Korea announced that it had tested a nuclear bomb.
Maybe Iran would have been safer from the USA if they had actually been developing nuclear weapons.
In 2002 George Bush coined the phrase 'axis of evil' to mean Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. He then ordered the invasion of Iraq.
Three years later, North Korea announced that it had tested a nuclear bomb.
Maybe Iran would have been safer from the USA if they had actually been developing nuclear weapons.
@tarzan @alpinefolk @ArrestJK @alanferrier
Precisely why Israel wants Iran to be left defenseless and why they bombed Iran while still negotiating a resolution with USA to the existing nuclear agreement Trump tore up.
Arthur van der Harg@alanferrier Hawaii hadn’t been softened up by another country before the Japanese moved in.
GinevraCat@alanferrier Very clever.
Fuck I hate that we never learn!
Laux Myth (aka Martin)@alanferrier
Indeed. Again, for those in the cheap seats at the back, history does not repeat, it simply echoes.
Indeed. Again, for those in the cheap seats at the back, history does not repeat, it simply echoes.
@alanferrier I assume this is a paraphrase of some tweet from the Swine Emperor?
Father EnochNo way in hell would he be able to make so long a post on #Xitter.
Robin Barton@alanferrier Well done and very enjoyable
Marty Fouts@alanferrier Except Japan formally declared war on the US and never pretended Pearl was anything but the opening salvo.
Christopher Faille@alanferrier As Vice-Emperor Vance said in December 1941: "We are not at war with the United States. We are only at war with the Pacific fleet."
Michael Zeevi@alanferrier I don't want to get political, so I'll just lol at "all planes are now outside of America airspace"
Brian Repko@alanferrier we aren’t at war with the USA, just their Pacific Ocean expansion program
Rob van Kan@alanferrier Tenno heika banzaiiii!
Paladin 
@alanferrier Epic!
