Christopher Kyba 🇨🇦🇪🇺This comes as a bit of a surprise to Christopher Kyba himself, who somehow has a lot of memories of being underground at the SNO site 🤔
My daughter just came up with a great exercise: challenge your students to find the title of your PhD using ONLY LLMs (no Google allowed). If any of them manage, they get gummy bears 😃
I asked five different models, and got five different answers, all five of which were completely wrong 😂
#AI #ChatGPT #AISlop #LLM #LLMFail #Education #HigherEducation #AcademicChatter
Jay@skyglowberlin "(no Google allowed)" That makes this a pretty foolish exercise to suggest IMO. The bot's guess will be no different than anyone else who's never heard your bio.
@Jay42 And what do you suppose I hope the students might learn from such an exercise?
@skyglowberlin They'll learn their teacher gives them arbitrary tasks that have no bearing in reality.
AutoVectis@Jay42 Over the years I have taught there is always a subset of students who have difficulty in understanding that the overt task you set is merely a vehicle to carry a much more valuable growth/learning lesson. When you lift weights in the gym - is the point of that exercise to just arbitrarily get those weights higher off the floor? Or are they just a simple representative example, to help you get stronger, so that you can lift something for real when you have to?
@autovectis We see in current day that some people can use trial and error and still not learn (example: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/18/whatsapp-ai-helper-mistakenly-shares-users-number ) which further reinforces that it's a foolish exercise. With your analogy, would you teach them the incorrect way to lift weights? It's the equivalent of letting them hurt themselves lifting incorrectly to "teach them a lesson." Are you saying it's a smart exercise? It's a fool's errand.
@Jay42 - That's not a good example because it carries real health risks. Getting people to look something up online using, a deliberately bad strategy, carries no risk. But I suspect you're making a couple of assumptions here - that this is the only strategy that is being used (Rather than one strand out of a bunch that are being used) And, secondly, that the reason behind the task has not been explained to the students? Is this approach something that frustrates you as a student?
@autovectis "That's not a good example because it carries real health risks." I was correcting your bad analogy. Seems your ego couldn't take it.
@autovectis I like the weight lifting analogy. We're watching @skyglowberlin telling his students to lift with their backs so some might learn that it's incorrect form. If any of his students are so naive to believe him he's also potentially taught them nothing.
@Jay42 I wish you good luck with your studies and look forward to buying burgers off you in the future.
@autovectis Hilarious ad hominem, you really won the argument with that one. Yet I'm the one being called rude and thick.
GLCWelcome, reply guy.
Muting, as I don't have patience (too old), but with best wishes for your personal journey.
@glc@mastodon.online @skyglowberlin Then why say anything? You didn't have to be a weirdo.
Leonard Ritter@Jay42 @skyglowberlin "it's an excellent FPS game as long as you don't try to walk through the walls" (because it has no wall collision. you can just walk through.)