To Bluesky users. CEO Jay Graber has said #Bluesky is decentralized. If you don't like what the company is doing, you have the option to move your account.

So, for instance, if the company welcomed and verified JD Vance, as has now happened, you could move elsewhere.

Well folks, this was a lie, Bluesky is actually a centralized platform. There is no place on Bluesky to move to.

But you do have one option. Move to the Fediverse. A truly decentralized defensible public social media network.

@mastodonmigration (ponder) Is that a truth sandwich? Yes, it is.

@mastodonmigration

#ActivityPub #W3C #NonDisclosureAgreement #EmptyPromises

Yes, I wonder if there is at least anything which Jay Graber did not promise to anyone!

@mastodonmigration sorry, but what’s wrong in verifying JD Vance account? That’s just for knowing if he’s the real one and not a fake account.

Not a JD fan neither a #bluesky user btw

@ezalb

This is a very reasonable question. What is wrong with platforming and verifying JD Vance? This is a subject upon which different people will have different opinions. The issue is that in a centralized system the decision is left with the centralized authority. In this case, #Bluesky's Jay Graber. The only option users have is to individually block the account, which as David Fleetwood @reflex explains here is an opt-out decision: https://retrogaming.social/@reflex/114710539517419550

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David Fleetwood - RG Admin (@[email protected])

@[email protected] This is an opt in vs opt out question. On #bluesky you are opted into everything unless you take action to disable it. Vance starts with the largest possible audience by default. On #Fedi you can choose an instance that will opt you out of things you want nothing to do with by default. Vance has to work to get the reach he would have by default on Bluesky. And that work has to meet the conditions of those he hopes to reach.

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@ezalb @reflex

The beauty of a truly decentralized network is that collective moderation forces align to safeguard the community. An individual instance certainly has the ability to platform anyone. However, when they do so they risk collective action by the network to isolate them and their users. We have seen this multiple times where simply the threat of instance blocking has affected moderation decisions. This is, in effect, a primary means of defense for the community.

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@ezalb @reflex

Let's take it even further. Let's imagine an instance where many of its users wholly embrace platforming the individual, and they are subsequently blocked by many other instances. Instance users have the real option of moving somewhere else. Further, other instances that likewise don't object stay connected. The network adapts, and can even balkanize into almost entirely separate sub-networks based on different values. This is a natural, almost organic, defensive mechanism.

@mastodonmigration @reflex
thanks for the reply, it makes sense!
@ezalb @mastodonmigration The only reason to verify him is to be sure that the right person is banned immediately after verification.
@ezalb ... The wrong is the lie about being decentralized... @mastodonmigration

@mastodonmigration Bluesky started out as an exclusive invitation-only social media platform. That sort of exclusivity was a warning sign, and made me feel very uncomfortable. And you’re right, how could it be decentralized?! lol (guys, pls don’t answer that, it’s not a question ;)

I’m sick of all the pyramid scheme social media places where they steal our info and we become stats for their marketing tool while we participate or anticipate to be “popular.”

Fediverse works for me!

@mastodonmigration

Important facts to remember:

* During the #2024Election , #BlueSky went viral on #Xitter , which pulled a lot of liberals there. Unlike the times when #Mastodon trended for migration, #Elon never tried to silence those tweets.

* #BlueSky has no ads, but tracks user data even more than #Meta or #Xitter, and uses a manipulative algorithm. Why pay so much money to do all of that data manipulation, if you don't use it for your own profit?

#JayGraber is one of the #BigData billionaires who manipulated the last election--by dividing the left, and suppressing the vote. So many on there were made to believe they could "protest" for #Gaza by withholding their vote-- just as so many on the DIVIDED left refused to vote for #Hillary in 2016.

You can expect they will manipulate the next ones, subtly but effectively, by dividing the left in 2026 & 2028. #DontTrustBlueSky

#MarkZuckerberg #Meta #Facebook #JeffBezos #Amazon #SundarPuchai #Google #ElonMusk #VoterSuppression

@mastodonmigration - b-sky reminds me of my step-grandfather who would read newspaper articles he found interesting out loud. I don't need to see the same links to the same news stories etc repeatedly. Mastodon is best choice for original content.

Re: our talk yesterday about Bsky vs. fediverse

@dmahugh

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@jrossstocholm I blocked him with one click. Does it take less than one click to move to a different instance in the Fediverse? :)
@mastodonmigration I see a valid point with the sentiment that "there isn no place on Bluesky to move to" (otherwise, I wouldn't also be using Fedi), but I feel the more accurate thing about that platform is that its underlying protocol is fully decentralized, but it's centralized in practice. Numerous nerds have self-hosted their own PDSes, projects like https://deer.social provide a robust alternative frontend to https://bsky.app, and people are developing alternative moderation teams separate from the (frankly poo-poo) @/moderation.bsky.app. However, most people, including I, just settle with using bsky.social, the main and largest server. When the server gets downtime, almost everyone on the network would feel it, and most people certainly wouldn't know how to sign up for alternative Bluesky servers (unlike on Fedi).

Still, I appreciate how it's the other platform that lets users curate their social media experiences. I've made custom feeds to follow its comfy art communities, and I've removed the Discover Feed and Trending tab to avoid Bluesky's far more stressful political communities. It's something I've seen in no other platform besides Fedi (which has custom lists), and although Fedi is more ethical for having more options for decentralized use, Bluesky is also really cool for taking the user into consideration (rather than treating them as money trees).
deer.social

@mastodonmigration It sure seemed centralized when it first showed up, but people said that wasn't true... and they ran their own servers, but I was skeptical. So can you clarify for me?
@mastodonmigration I love how not even that long ago, the CEO was amping up and selling shirts that basically said no kings to then just turn around and do whatever this is.
@mastodonmigration "Bluesky has an open API, and servers elsewhere can use this! OMG we are DISTRIBUTED!!!" - this is apparently their logic.
@mastodonmigration Moving somewhere else every time some who I do not personally like joins the Fediverse.... does not scale. Not for me, not for the fediverse.

@darren

That is not the point. It is a systemic matter that has to do more with community moderation and democratic process. Attempt at an explanation here:

https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/114711032700913608

Mastodon Migration (@[email protected])

Teachable moment on actual network decentralization... Some ask, what is wrong with platforming and verifying JD Vance? This is a subject upon which different people will have different opinions. The issue is that in a centralized system the decision is left with the centralized authority. In this case, #Bluesky's Jay Graber. They only option users have is to individually block the account, which as David Fleetwood @reflex explains here is an opt-out decision: https://retrogaming.social/@reflex/114710539517419550 1/3

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Good time to get off bluesky, if not for yourself, do it for your couch.