Теодор Златанов / Ted Zlatanov
Meredith WhittakerUse Signal. We promise, no AI clutter, and no surveillance ads, whatever the rest of the industry does. <3
Sexy Techy 𝕐@Mer__edith Not accessibility wise
Nick Silkey 🪓🪵 🪣💧@Techgirl1232 @Mer__edith lean in. Use it where you can. Talk about your experience on accessibility. Feedback the only way anything improves amongst us humans. It demonstrably works. It's how we have built everything together. We can do so much together. ✌️💙
Shawn Webb@Mer__edith Use Signal. Use Tor. Use Signal behind Tor. :-)
Cdrik ⏚🌻Thanks for sharing @Mer__edith
Do you have a link ?
Alexandre
Blue Luma
sbi@Bristow_69 Signal's account is linked in her profile, and that has a link.
Martin Rocket@Bristow_69 There you go: https://noyb.eu/en/whatsapp-getting-ads-using-personal-data-instagram-and-facebook
The screenshot by @Mer__edith shows an article by @noybeu
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Cassandrich@Mer__edith And you can also promise not being owned by nazis with VC brainworms looking for the first opportunity to sell out their users. Unlike SimpleX.
Please, if you can, try to focus on some of the selling points they're using to dupe folks onto their platform, some of which really matter (like anonymous sign-up).
aburka 🫣@dalias @Mer__edith The ability to use my signal account on a burner phone would be amazing (and obviously technically feasible, since the desktop app exists)
Nyans@aburka 🤔
Interesting, I can see a (legitimate) use case for that, like travelling to certain countries where they feel the excessive need to search your phone.
An option to limit the address book and chat sync, managed from your main device, could be useful in that scenario too.
Penelope Gwen 🏳️⚧️@aburka
If you mean adding your burner phone as a linked device to your Signal account, I've been able to use the Molly client on Android to achieve this
If you mean adding your burner phone as a linked device to your Signal account, I've been able to use the Molly client on Android to achieve this
@pogmommy nice, hadn't heard of Molly but will look into it. Not entirely sure how to feel about unofficial signal software... witness the US govt's usage of a signal client that was MITMing all the comms. Of course they did that on purpose but a malicious client could do the same
@aburka don't blame you at all. All I've seen about Molly seems to indicate high safety/security- it appears to be well-regarded in the grapheneos forums/community. Its selling point is being a hardened fork of the official Signal client, featuring things like at-rest encryption, ram wiping, etc. And if you install Molly-foss (the only version available in Accrescent store) it replaces proprietary blobs that Signal depends on for notifs/location services with secure, open-source alternatives.
their website is https://molly.im & the link to the project's git repo is https://github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android
fwiw, I'm not a dev or contributor to the project, just a satisfied user. definitely look into it yourself before trusting it with your data & access to your signal account.
their website is https://molly.im & the link to the project's git repo is https://github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android
fwiw, I'm not a dev or contributor to the project, just a satisfied user. definitely look into it yourself before trusting it with your data & access to your signal account.
Mans R@dalias @Mer__edith I'd prefer it without the cryptocurrency bullshit too.
khmmaybe official clients for operating systems not controlled by google or apple
CC: @dalias@hachyderm.io @Mer__edith@mastodon.world
CC: @dalias@hachyderm.io @Mer__edith@mastodon.world
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kaiserkiwi 
@Avitus @mansr @dalias @Mer__edith Proof: I use Signal and have no idea what they're talking about. 😅
4 Strings and a Pint@mansr @dalias @Mer__edith Even though it does nothing by default because it's off by default? Strange logic.
@Avitus @mansr @Mer__edith Yes it's sus, but I imagine it's a significant source of well-diversified donations from users. Which is much better than being dependent on just a few big funders. I don't care that it's there as long as it's easy to ignore and not trying to dupe folks into treating it like an investment rather than just a way to transfer money.
Derek Morr@mansr @Mer__edith @Avitus @dalias it’s not a source of donations. It’s really a failed experiment,and I wish they’d remove it. Their token, MobileCoin, isn’t used anywhere. A year ago, Techlore made a video of them trying and failing to buy it. https://youtu.be/0DSGq9FQKU4
We Tried Signal's MobileCoin So You Never Have To...
@derekmorr @mansr @Mer__edith @dalias MobileCoin wasn't "their token". It was a partnership with the company MobileCoin. All Signal did was build an opt-in wallet compatible with it.
@Avitus @derekmorr @Mer__edith @dalias Such details are irrelevant. Any association with cryptocurrencies makes using the app feel a bit like eating at a restaurant that has good food but you know is a money laundering front for the mob.
@Avitus @dalias @mansr @Mer__edith you can’t even use it. A year or so ago, Techlore made a video where he tried to purchase tokens for it and couldn’t find an exchange that worked. Really, it’s much ado about nothing at this point.
@dalias @Mer__edith can you share a link about this please ?
@blueluma @Mer__edith See the links from the post I'm replying to here: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/114631010411924253
Beware: vile transphobic comments if you click thru to the birdchan link. I've intentionally linked to a point where folks can navigate to it but won't inadvertently open it up without several click-thrus.
Cassandrich (@dalias@hachyderm.io)
@Ember@blobfox.coffee Thanks for the citation. For those who don't need to actually see the vile receipts (don't click thru unless you really do), the lead dev of SimpleX posts vile shit on birdchan (of course) in favor of abuse of trans children. DO NOT USE SIMPLEX. DO NOT PROMOTE SIMPLEX. CALL FOLKS OUT WHEN THEY DO.
MightyPirate™ 🏳️🌈"Unlike SimpleX.
Please, if you can, try to focus on some of the selling points they're using to dupe folks onto their platform"
Do you have a source for that accusation?
@iThreepwood @Mer__edith I'm not clear what you're looking for.
The "selling points" are the claims of stronger privacy properties. I'm not making any claim as to whether they're incorrect or exaggerated here.
My use of the word "dupe" is because I don't think any of the folks targeted want or intend to be on a platform run by vocal transphobes using exterminist language (I deem this to qualify thoroughly as "nazi") who are on a standard VC startup path and who will be looking to monetize (i.e. sell out) their users. The privacy claims are luring them onto a platform that's unsafe and against their interests.
Anne Ominousshould i turn off push motifications for Signal to make it even more secure?
@rustoleumlove @Mer__edith message content isn't included in Signal's push notifications.
yet, i can see that content in the notification.
Mehdi Kharraz@rustoleumlove @derekmorr From my understanding, Signal's push notifications just act as a way to wake up the device. Then, the app fetches the encrypted content from Signal's server, decrypt it locally, and generate a local notification with the decrypted content.
thank you so much for that explanation.
@imkh @rustoleumlove that's right. The push notification had an empty body. So all Google or Apple sees is that you got a message on Signal at a certain time.
@rustoleumlove @derekmorr Meredith addressed this 18 months ago https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith/111563865413484025
Meredith Whittaker (@Mer__edith@mastodon.world)
PSA: We've received questions about push notifications. First: push notifications for Signal NEVER contain sensitive unencrypted data & do not reveal the contents of any Signal messages or calls–not to Apple, not to Google, not to anyone but you & the people you're talking to. 1/
Rosbeef Andino@rustoleumlove @Mer__edith #molly from @fdroidorg . you can self host #ntfy and #mollysocket simply with @yunohost to get selfhosted notification service.
Zwecki / Flo 
@Mer__edith
Or better yet, use decentralized Software.
Or better yet, use decentralized Software.
gato@zwecki @Mer__edith What do you recommend as a decentralized, privacy aware chat app, available on all major platforms?
florian_a@gatogatogato @zwecki @Mer__edith Matrix is great (@matrix). Although Signal remains the gold standard for encryption.
Claudius@zwecki I'd be open to suggestions as long as it's not the dumpster fire that is called Matrix/Element.
Lukas Schieren 
Sebastian "spaetz" Spaeth@claudius works fine here 🙂
@zwecki @Mer__edith They did that once. It didn't go well.
"In May 2016, Moxie Marlinspike wrote that federation with the CyanogenMod servers had degraded the user experience and held back development, and that their servers will probably not federate with other servers again."
Moxie also did an entire presentation about why it's inferior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdM-XTRyC9c
36C3 - The ecosystem is moving
Fritz Adalis@Mer__edith @Viss
While I appreciate the overall sentiment, "no surveillance ads" seems oddly specific, like something is in the pipeline that needs that wording.
While I appreciate the overall sentiment, "no surveillance ads" seems oddly specific, like something is in the pipeline that needs that wording.
Matthew Sainsbury
kainisenni@FritzAdalis
I think that Signal's requests for donations can count as ads, hence the wording. If they were planning something evil they'd just lie.
@Mer__edith @Viss
I think that Signal's requests for donations can count as ads, hence the wording. If they were planning something evil they'd just lie.
@Mer__edith @Viss
@kainisenni @Mer__edith @Viss
I mean Mozilla didn't when they finished jumping the shark, they could have left in "we'll never sell your data" and claimed it was an oversight when they got caught.
I mean Mozilla didn't when they finished jumping the shark, they could have left in "we'll never sell your data" and claimed it was an oversight when they got caught.
Misuse Case@FritzAdalis @Mer__edith @Viss Almost all ads on the internet are surveillance ads, which is why it’s notable that Signal doesn’t have them.