Hot take: ISO standards do not meaningfully matter to me, because an extremely impoverished, unbanked person cannot freely access their contents from a smartphone or library computer.

Therefore, I go out of my way to avoid referring to them or relying on them in anyway.

@soatok ISO standards are behind a fuckin paywall?

jesus christ

@matildalove @soatok
ISO: "We created global standards for everyone to follow"
Everyone: "Can we see them?"
ISO: "No"
@aires @soatok they didn't clarify that by "everyone" they meant "wealthy techbros" because to them it's just obvious that those are the people who matter
@matildalove @aires @soatok
Which means I'm the official custodian for the one ISO standard I have at our office at work.
Completely crazy.

@ftg i hope you perform that job according to the rules. it sure would be terrible if such a standard were to end up on torrents or something.

(yeah, i know, why take that risk when nearly [or exactly] no one would even seed it. it's all so depressing.)

@matildalove
Sadly they are rather strongly watermarked these days.
@ftg @matildalove Protip: Libreoffice writer allows you to import PDFs. Documents with alternating landscape/portrait pages need a bit of extra work, but for the rest, it works very well !

@matildalove @aires @soatok

It is often hard to get the people that fund the making and updating of standards to also pay for publishing, maintdnance of the organisation that publishes and updates, etc.

I do comparable work, and though we would like to see that these costs are paid in advance by the funding parties, they can't go much further than a little contribution for a minimum of dissemination work.

@Marrekoo @matildalove @aires @soatok I agree. It seems Hard to realize the costs issues. While it would be great to have everything open access, we should consider the cost associated and Who would fund them
@Marrekoo @matildalove @aires @soatok ISO charges exorbitant membership fees. The standards are written by volunteers. They manage to still lose money, somehow, while other standardization organizations can publish their stuff for free and run as a non profit
@matildalove @aires @soatok some (a lot) of this stuff, like „oh you should use this standard for certification and you can only do that by a license dongle for god knows how much“ really just pretty much seem like a racket.
@halcy @matildalove @aires @soatok It is. Take 27001 for example. It’s a Herculean task for small businesses to implement. But if you’re a supplier for a bigger company, and that company and its whole supply chain have to be certified by law, you’re in trouble. Imho that particular standard exists to get rid of small competitors.

@matildalove
Their roots are in manufacturing and constructions where the price of the standards are almost incidental compared to the costs of producing the final product.

Having said that I do still think they're often massively overpriced.

@aires @soatok