Over 7 million GIMP 3 downloads already <3
@GIMP Imagine if people didn't have to look past the insulting name!
@j_s_j 7 million doesn't care
@adilarif 1. You don't know that. 2. You reveal yourself in this comment. 3. No one asked you. 4. Fuck off.
@j_s_j @GIMP Forcing one standard of language is against cultural diversity tho.

Especially, English nowadays is a global language. There are plenty of variation of English, like Singaproean English, Indian English, and so on. I've seen Asian people getting attacked online by (mostly) American for speaking their own variation of English.

Gimp itself has a neutral meaning in Asia, there's no need to force American English language as a global standard.

@celbri @j_s_j it’s enough that people are hurt by the name, and that some organizations, including schools, feel they can’t use GIMP internally for fear of hurting people. It’s not about forcing one standard (and it’s not only a problem in American English).

Thank you, though, for commenting - we welcome all perspectives.

@celbri If you think the name hasn't seriously hindered adoption, you have literally not one clue about how human minds work. It really doesn't matter how little impacts other cultures when it was chosen specifically for its use as an English word.

But you know this. You just want to be a dick. And you succeeded!

@j_s_j Okay friend, I simply tried to discuss by sharing my perspective.

You could say all of that without being rude. The dev literally replied with the same point as you, but thousands time better and more communicative.

@celbri Right. They responded like a professional org. I responded like just another person who is treating your opinion with the malice it deserves.

Block me if it bugs you.

@j_s_j Not really, I just want to know your perspective and that's cool. Cheers from Indonesia 👊😎
@j_s_j @celbri Or you could be more respectful to everyone instead of being an asshole. If you're angry about the name, that doesn't justify your attitude towards others. And it makes you a hypocrite to demand the change of an offensive word when you insult everyone.
@mocte @celbri In case it wasn't obvious, if you think "GIMP" is okay, I am actually trying to be an asshole to you. Without apology.
@j_s_j @celbri Then you don't deserve the respect you demand. You can't have something you don't give, nor something you don't even understand. It's a shame that you have twisted your mind so much.
@mocte @celbri I will have to learn to live with the knowledge I've disappointed you
@j_s_j @celbri And look, gimp has other meanings, in case you didn't know.

@mocte @celbri Literally none of which have anything to do with image manipulation, just like "GIMP" itself has nothing to do with it aside from a strained acronym.

Stop defending this shit. You look like an idiot

@j_s_j @celbri Ironic, but well, we see in others a reflection of ourselves, so it annoys you to see gimp simply because your mind is filled with trash and insults, so you can't see beyond the slur to see the acronym.

@mocte @celbri My dude I've been using GIMP for nearly two decades. You don't know me.

I already invited you to fuck off. Please take the opportunity to do so.

@j_s_j @celbri I don't need to know you to judge your behavior here in the comments and point out your hypocrisy.
@celbri @GIMP @j_s_j Also the word has other meanings, so there's no need to stigmatize it as an insult.

@mocte It's been fun toying with your two brain cells but I'm bored now.

Go ahead and get the last word so you can feel good about yourself 🤗

I hope whatever is driving you to defend such shitty behavior gets dealt with eventually. You'll be happier.

Good luck!

@GIMP i'd love to be happy about software, but thanks to the name your posts are a jumpscare. it could have just been IMP, but nooo, yous just had to provoke to feel clever
@jackie @GIMP Some official statements about this topic in case you're unaware.
https://floss.social/@GIMP/114181145790257808
https://floss.social/@GIMP/114184886226009286
If you don't care, just ignore me.
GIMP (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] GNU Image Manipulation Program. Before it joined the GNU project it was called IMP.

FLOSS.social
@mgfp @jackie actually thank you for reminding me, i was going to update the FAQ we have, which was written a long time ago. We do care, by the way, @jackie and plan to discuss it at our face-to-face meeting later this month. The name was chosen almost 30 years ago partly inspired by a character in a movie the programmers enjoyed.
@GIMP @jackie Interesting, did not expect this! Whatever decision you guys take, I'll suport it. It would be nice not seeing people slander your this program.
@GIMP it kills me to get a reply from or mention this account with the name i am not ok rn 🙃
@GIMP I'd be excited to see a new, awesome name. The program is great and deserves it :)
@GIMP @mgfp @jackie this content warning makes no sense
@XaetaCore @GIMP @jackie
It's was on automatically. I tried to edit mine out.
@jackie @GIMP What a weird take on the name, GIMP's been around for a very long time, and their developers (as previously mentioned by the GIMP account) weren't aware of any negative connotations of the word. I'm really skeptical on whether or not disabled people actually see GIMP software and are offended by its name. I think the amount of people insistent on the changing of the name, which does not particularly have a meaning in most languages, and still in most contexts the meaning is not relevant, warrants changing, which would require an immeasurable amount of developer hours. Changing a name means changing the entire branding, which means making it unrecognizable in the future.

My local schools here in Finland use GIMP, they have had no problems with the name or anything. And Finland has a 90% English proficiency, this just shows the name of software doesn't really matter.

Honestly, I'm gonna say it outright, if when you look at the name of the GIMP software, and your immediate thought is a slur, there *might* be something wrong with you.

@samuel @jackie @GIMP

Here's another way to look at it:

Would it be harmful to simply rename the project?

@Grant_M @jackie @GIMP I think so, it would:
- Turn GIMP from a brand that has been built over 26 years, and is recognizable, into something that many won't recognize at a glance.
- It would be difficult to turn people towards the newer project, especially if they already were familiar with the "GIMP" name and are unfamiliar with any possible negative connotations to the word. e.g. I work as a teacher for my local university in a grant where me and others teach primary/secondary school students technology skills, one of which was GIMP software, it would for me take a considerable amount more effort to explain to my employer and to my students that the name of the software was changed, because I might also have to explain why it was changed.
- A lot of development could be better spent elsewhere than changing references from GIMP to Anything new.

Personally I see it that there is no real reason to change it, and expecting the name to be change is honestly kind of, to put it bluntly, kinda stupid. https://blog.samuelhautamaki.eu/it-is-stupid-to-expect-gimp-name-change.

Of course you get a project that, for self proclaimed disability advocates, wouldn't be offensive anymore, but in my opinion, disability advocates can spend their time better on problems which actually affect disabled people, and to actually combat ableism, "harassing" foss developers is not particularly useful for the cause.
It is kinda dumb to expect GIMP to rename the entire project.

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@Grant_M @samuel @jackie @GIMP Yes, more than leaving the name if it isn't done right. It has to be well done and with substantial support from the whole community, also it will take a lot of time to be effective as most people will search for Gimp in tutorials and so on, making content creators use titles like "New name (Gimp)".
@moc @Grant_M @samuel @jackie indeed - and there are people who make income from training, youtube videos and so on. I don't know what the outcome of the discussions will be, but we do plan to have the discussions.

@GIMP @moc @samuel @jackie

Something that would be worth trying is for the next release, offer two identical downloads -- One with the current name, and one with a new BETTER name. Allow people to choose which one they take.

I guarantee people, especially schools, organizations, etc. will choose the newly named offering. After that, the phase-out for the old name can happen.

@Grant_M @GIMP @samuel @jackie I have no idea what kind of effort and resources that would take, but if it's relatively easy it's a good idea to offer the software under another name. Though legally who knows how easy that is to do, it could be a nightmare.

@moc @Grant_M @samuel @jackie It is a lot of work. Not just changing the splash screen, menus, messages, folder names, manual, installer, translatingchanged messages into every language GIMP is available in,, but also the API - there are maybe 10,000 scripts + plug-ins and they use libgimp and register with functions with gimp in their name, and so on. How far do we go? It's person-months overall for sure.

But yes, we plan to discuss it, in seriousness, & we will decide what to do.

@moc @samuel @jackie @GIMP

Who says it can't be done "right?" It would expand the user base and increase funding.

@Grant_M @samuel @jackie @GIMP I didn't say it can't be done, just that it's tricky because it's not only about what GIMP does, others can affect the outcome.
@GIMP Congrats GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP). And more shall be able to feel the taste of FREEDOM.
@GIMP any software updates soon? ;)
@GIMP Congrats. It's really an amazing work
@GIMP because you rule the game ! <3
@GIMP The future looks bright for Wilber Paint!
@GIMP
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هذا دون عد التنزيلات التي تتم من مستودعات توزعات غنو/لينكس مباشرة.
This is without counting the downloads directly from repos of the GNU/Linux distros .