Friends, Husband was watching a stream from the UK earlier and they talked about “an American sandwich called peanut butter and jelly.”

Is PB&J a uniquely American thing??

@dramypsyd we don't call it jelly either. It's jam.
@spzb @dramypsyd jam an jelly are two entirely different things (although the jelly selection these days is really lacking at most stores, mostly grape, sometimes strawberry, and if you hunt you _might_ find apple.)
@ochaos @dramypsyd "jelly" in the uk refers almost exclusively to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin_dessert
Gelatin dessert - Wikipedia

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My English born grandmother made the other kind of jelly. And taught my mother, who taught me. Quince jelly is a particular favourite, though she adapted to Tamaki Makaurau's subtropical climes and added guava to her repertoire.
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I have to reduce sugar intake and apple butter appears to be available most everywhere. I also found a sugar-free grape jelly recently that I’ll be trying soon.
@spzb @dramypsyd I call it jelly in the context of PBJ but, otherwise, yes, jam.
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"Must Be Jelly, Cause Jam Don't Shake Like That." ~JC Chummy McGregor, 1942
@dramypsyd basically the only place I've seen peanut butter outside of North America is in the American section of a grocery store, so I think it may be!

@adrake @dramypsyd Peanut butter is quite popular in Australia. Though it’s usually not mixed with anything.

(Also, the ‘jelly’ is what we would usually call jam.)

@troberts @dramypsyd interesting! (I've never been) Do you suppose they got that from the US, or is it an independent invention?

Re jam, to be fair, I haven't made a PB&J with actual jelly since I was a little kid; my adult palate much prefers jam. Even as a kid I think my favorite way was with strawberry jam.

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didn't even know you could paint with jam!

@kolya @troberts @dramypsyd you just have to thin it out a little bit depending on the style 😉 also make sure it has a place to dry where critters won't get to it.

That's what I get for typing in a hurry!

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aw man, you ninja edited it. and I didn't even get to muse about what colors an adult palette would be comprised of!

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It looks like a guy named Edward Halsey emigrated to Australia in the 1890s and set up a food company that started making it around then.

He had worked at the 'Battle Creek Sanitarium' in the US which was founded by John Harvey Kellogg (of the breakfast cereal fame) who had the patent for peanut butter in the US.

https://australianfoodtimeline.com.au/peanut-butter/

Sanitarium peanut butter - Australian food history timeline

In 1898 Sanitarium Health Food company began marketing their peanut butter. It was the first in Australia and among the first in the world.

Australian Food Timeline

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I love raspberry with all my heart, but for that good pb&j, the one that harkens back to childhood, it has to be strawberry.

@Jorsh @adrake @troberts @dramypsyd SAME. But have you tried MarionBerry jam? It’ll knock your knickers off.
@FeloniousPunk @Jorsh @troberts @dramypsyd I've had marionberries but never their jam! I bet it'd be good though
@adrake @Jorsh @troberts @dramypsyd The image was just an example. Tbh, the best I’ve had came from the local farmer’s market. But the commercial brands are pretty tasty.
@FeloniousPunk @Jorsh @troberts @dramypsyd I meant I've never had marionberry jam, not that particular brand, sorry!
@Jorsh @troberts @dramypsyd I'm in the same boat, I feel like the brightness of strawberry does a better job cutting through the richness of peanut butter. In most other contexts I'd rather have the raspberry! (I'll never turn either one down, though...)
@adrake @dramypsyd It's definitely available elsewhere. I used to live on that stuff when I was a kid in the UK.
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In the Netherlands there are supermarkets where you can put peanats into the squasher to buy the fresh peanut butter (pindakaas)
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There's peanut butter on market shelves here in Italy. Though I really don't know how long have those jars been laying there :)

@adrake @dramypsyd we have peanut butter in Australia (although it used to be called peanut paste in my day before stuff got more americanised here).

But it wasn’t common (still isn’t) to mix it with jam (and the American jelly isn’t really much of a thing here either).

Having said that, a peanut paste and plum jam sandwich is pretty tasty.

@adrake @dramypsyd It’s readily available in Australia, UK, and (IIRC) The Netherlands.
@dramypsyd I grew up eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I live in Canada.
@Shanmonster @dramypsyd
Peanut butter and jam in my family. Also Canadian.
@bjb @dramypsyd I've had peanut butter with jam as well as with jelly. My family made our own preserves.
@dramypsyd Nah. I'm from The Netherlands and had peanut butter and PB&J sandwiches growing up in the 90s.

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Yes.

This unholy concoction should be enough, in my opinion, to prosecute the entire American population for crimes against good taste.

@dramypsyd I got PB&J KitKats in Japan earlier this month. But maybe that was designed to appeal to tourists? (They have a weird flavor.)
@dramypsyd i can tell it wasn't a thing in my part of brasil growing up. peanut butter, yes, by the spoonful. jelly, yes, on the bread. both together, on the bread? nope. not a thing at all.
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It's pretty much unknown and considered weird in the UK.

@dramypsyd distinctively American IMO

My kids enjoyed it when they tried it though

@dramypsyd yeah. Hearing about it as a kid from cartoons, it sounded exotic and strange.
@dramypsyd It’s known as an American thing and isn’t common. I think I first heard about it on Sesame Street. But peanut butter and other nut butters are bigger now than they were.
@Nickiquote @dramypsyd “A-la peanut butter jelly sandwiches!”
@dramypsyd yes, completely unknown in Germany AFAIK
@swars @dramypsyd
Agreed, I think even peanut butter alone is not a big thing in Germany, but that might just have been my surroundings
@leberschnitzel @swars @dramypsyd I've only come to know and like peanut butter as an adult. My (boomer) parents think it's weird and icky in spite of regularly eating peanuts. Peanut butter is a distinctly American thing in my mind. Anyway, peanut butter and strawberry jam go great together IMO. Rossmann is the only store I've found so far that carries organic peanut butter like I've had in Canada and the US, i.e. without added sugar and palm oil.

@dramypsyd I love peanut butter but I would never ever mix it with jelly or jam

That's something that only sickos would do

@dramypsyd we do things the right way we put Hagelslag (chocolate chips) on Pindakaas (Peanut butter)
@eragon Tht sounds delicious!
@dramypsyd PB&J on toast. It’s a thing in this corner of Scotland.

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I’m not in the US, and while I’ve heard of it, I’ve never had one. So if you ask me: yes.

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My era had some crazy peanut butter and jelly snacks, which I thought were space food sticks, but i guess not. Anyway, it brought up to this
https://youtu.be/DjpueFi5Jms?si=6l7x7mgTkt5CqqQC
Weightless Peanut Butter And Jelly Sandwich Making In Space

YouTube
@dramypsyd Peanut butter and jelly was frequently consumed in the areas of Canada I grew up in.
@dramypsyd It’s very American, but not unique to America. I’m guessing it’s about as commonplace as anything made with Vegemite/Marmite is elsewhere.
@dramypsyd It's not common in Poland, and to me at least the combination sounded weird at first.

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Peanut butter and jam sandwiches existed, precariously, when I was growing up 50-ish years ago.

The problem was the consistency of the peanut butter, which didn't spread nicely, but was spooned onto a slice of bread and then squished out between the slices, using our grubby little hands 🤪

Adding the less viscous jam resulted in soggy bread which fell apart, and/or eruptions of jam during the squeeze-distribution phase 🤯

@dramypsyd If it was, it isn't anymore! Spanish convert here, I love that shit.
@jandi @dramypsyd passion fruit jam sounds amazing

@dramypsyd when I moved to Ireland I told my girlfriend I was really missing pb&j sandwiches and she looked at me like I was a space alien. I asked her "what, don't you have peanut butter here?" And she replied "yes, but I just put it inside bones as a treat for the dog."

pb&j definitely is not a thing in Ireland.

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It's known in Canada too, though j usually is jam. PB and banana is also favoured.