« Another weekend, another weekend of negative wholesale #power prices this time across most of #Europe. Basically from 11.00-17.00 today most countries from #France to #Finland will have power prices of zero or below. » #RePowerEU
https://twitter.com/gerardreid14/status/1662356280042766336
Gerard Reid on Twitter

“Another weekend, another weekend of negative wholesale #power prices this time across most of #Europe. Basically from 11.00-17.00 today most countries from #France to #Finland will have power prices of zero or below.”

Twitter
« It’s an increasingly common phenomenon as Europe races to build more cheap solar farms to cut demand for fossil fuels. Intraday prices in Germany, the region’s biggest power market, turned negative from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Tuesday, according to data from Epex Spot SE. » https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-04/power-prices-drop-below-zero-as-solar-output-surges-in-europe
European Power Prices Go Below Zero Again as Solar Output Surges

European power prices fell below zero again as production from solar farms overwhelms the grid early in the afternoon.

Bloomberg
Interesting post from Siemens Energy on their off-shore wind Power-To-X experiments and the various deployment models. https://spectrum.ieee.org/green-hydrogen-2663997448
Wind-to-Hydrogen Tech Goes to Sea

Siemens Energy is leading a coalition of 32 organizations, called H2Mare, which is developing the technology to produce green hydrogen out at sea

IEEE Spectrum

☀️⚡️ Everyone in Switzerland agrees we need more solar. But often, there's disagreement about where to put the panels without impacting the landscapes too much.

🛤️ Looking back, this one is a no-brainer, why not lay them down between train rails: there's already a strong connection to the grid, and it's infrastructure that's already ‘built’.

🇨🇭 First segment of the tracks got inaugurated today in canton Neuchâtel.

https://www.rts.ch/info/regions/neuchatel/2025/article/la-premiere-centrale-solaire-sur-rails-a-ete-inauguree-dans-le-canton-de-neuchatel-28863275.html
Supplier: https://www.sun-ways.ch

#Solar #Trains #Railways

La première centrale solaire sur rails a été inaugurée dans le canton de Neuchâtel

C'est un projet inédit en Suisse: la première centrale solaire amovible sur une voie ferrée ouverte au trafic ferroviaire a été inaugurée jeudi à Buttes, dans le canton de Neuchâtel. Des trains voyageurs vont donc circuler par-dessus une installation photovoltaïque.

Radio Télévision Suisse

@fj it's cute but even if you did all of it, 3800 km of standard gauge at 1.4mish wide with an energy density of roughly 100 W/m² gives you about 500 MW of power total, i.e. 10% of current (tiny) Swiss solar capacity.

You could get the same capacity by converting 0.03%(!) of Swiss agricultural land to solar.

@bovine3dom @fj I guess the panels need to be stronger than regular ones as well to protect against stones and such? And you'd need to stop traffic on a line if one needs servicing... Doesn't really sound like a good idea when there's still ample roof space that could be used instead.

@ives I'm not really convinced by roof solar, it's cute and fun, but installing solar on farmland is much cheaper and you can get an added ecological benefit by rewilding the land quite significantly, seeding meadows beneath and around the panels

https://solarenergyuk.org/news/wildlife-found-thriving-on-solar-farms/ (it's from an industry group, so take with a pinch of salt, but look at how gorgeous those meadows are...)

@fj

Wildlife found thriving on solar farms

Solar farms can be havens for biodiversity, says a new ecological survey

Solar Energy UK
@bovine3dom @fj Fine if you have the space for it. We definitely don't over here in Belgium; not sure what the situation is in Switzerland, where they're doing the rail thing.
@ives are you talking about a different Belgium to the one i am looking at because this one i could cover 90% in solar panels without a single person having to move
@bovine3dom 20% of what you're seeing is forest, and another 20% is buildings. Unless you're going to use rooftops and cut down all trees, I don't think you'll reach 90%.

@ives yeah, fair enough, sorry. i could only cover 80% of it in solar panels without a single person having to move. i had underestimated just how dense Belgium is - it is about 20% populated as you said.

I'm not keen on cutting down any forests so let's only cover 50% of Belgium in solar panels

that's 15,000km² which would be about 1,500GW - double the current total world capacity of solar

i really don't understand in what way you "don't have space" :)

@bovine3dom @ives In most provinces of Belgium, the majority of the agricultural land goes livestock grazing, an utterly wasteful activity. It can be eliminated without any impact on food security (since meat and dairy are useless) or income (since it's all loss-making subsidised business). (But it doesn't even need to be, as you can let sheep graze around the solar panels.) The average livestock grazing farm is 40 ha. How many landowners do you need to convert to solar?
https://www.atlas-belgique.be/index.php/en/digital-atlas/agriculture/
Landscape, rural areas and agriculture – Atlas of Belgium

@nemobis @bovine3dom @ives

It seems to me that livestock grazing is not incompatible with solar panels.

@resuna @nemobis @bovine3dom @ives More solar panels and a little less livestock would be the ideal combination.

The cows do however love the shade the solar panels provide.