Mastodon isn't perfect.

But the fact a social network exists that is completely free to use

has no venture capital investors

has no shareholders to answer to

has no growth targets

with a web interface with zero tracking cookies

and mobile apps with zero trackers at all

with ten thousand server administrators who donate their time for user safety

is - in my opinion - mindbogglingly cool, given the state of the world we live in. Not everything has to be shit. People make things better.

@GossiTheDog
with no ads, even without ad blockers!
With no engagement-reinforcing force-feeding of content
with no arbitrary rules that only exist to keep the platform "advertisable" (there are still arbitrary rules, though 😅)

just wanted to extend your list by some additional noteworthy selling points

@DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog It would be nice if we could come up with language that captures the difference between ads and “posts that someone paid to place on timeline”.

There are ads on Mastodon, such as the artists who post to promote their work or services for sale. They are generally a good thing because you only see them under the same circumstances that you see any post.

But there are no posts that are forced onto your timeline.

@MartyFouts @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog What should we call them? Organic ads? Homegrown ads? I've seen plenty of those on Mastodon, even from companies, but the corporate ones have so far only popped up in the federated feed and are easy to block so they don't bother me that much.

@macberg @MartyFouts @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog

In the long lost days of the #cluetrain we called these "having a conversation“ — unlike 'advertising', you can reply, share or block, and if the OP doesn't grasp that "business is conversation" it's not because we didn't give them the chance ☺️

@macberg @MartyFouts @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog
I think a big part of the difference is that the admins that run fedi instances aren't paid by advertisers.

This means that any advertising is just like any other post. It's not done by the social network itself, only by its users.

So maybe sth like "not ad-funded" would be a good short-hand way to describe it.

@macberg @MartyFouts @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I think "promotion" captures the gist and is a well-established term.
@macberg @MartyFouts @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog “Automated advertisement” is the bad thing I guess?

@macberg @MartyFouts @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog

I call them posters, just like the ones we put up around town, advertising our punk concerts or book cafes, back in the day.

@macberg @MartyFouts @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog

If I'm in a room full of people, and tell everyone I talk to about a gig I've got coming up, am I advertising? Is that an ad?

@siobhansarelle @macberg @MartyFouts @GossiTheDog I honestly don't care. That kind of ad I have no problem with, because it is a person talking to persons about a thing a person does, as opposed to manipulative posts rolled out by an intansparent algorithm inheritly and knowingly against my will without any human invervention

@siobhansarelle @macberg @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog Yes, you would be advertising, if you were talking in a way meant to encourage people to attend. There’s nothing wrong with that and self promotion is a necessity.

“An ad” implies that there is a record of what you said that you meant to publish more widely, possibly repeatedly, but broadly speaking such encouragement is an ad.

@MartyFouts @GossiTheDog for me, ads are exclusively the latter. The first one is to me just peomotion
@GossiTheDog Why can't computers be perfect?
@ravirockks @GossiTheDog Because humans aren't perfect.
@kerravonsen @GossiTheDog But AI is - why don't we have AI build the computers?
@ravirockks @GossiTheDog I assume you're not being serious.
@kerravonsen @GossiTheDog [Sir_Humphrey_Appleby_smiling.gif]
@kerravonsen (Thank you for indulging me, mate.)

@ravirockks Because they are made and programmed by humans, an inherently flawed species.

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@finlaydag33k @GossiTheDog Humans are not flawed. The people viewing humans as flawed are flawed.

Those people need to be shown the mirror.

@ravirockks Ah yes... Because all those times kings, dictators and other types of "rulers" sent people to die in wars, just so they themselves can obtain more power and riches sure is an indicator of a "perfect species"...

And 1001 more jokes to tell yourself.

@GossiTheDog

@finlaydag33k @GossiTheDog Glad you realised I was actually joking, Aroop.

@ravirockks It's hard to pick up jokes over text.

@GossiTheDog

@finlaydag33k @GossiTheDog Well, what can I say, we humans are flawed buggers, eh?
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@aspragg @GossiTheDog I’m going to steal that for my research - cheers!
@GossiTheDog that’s really why I like the place. It reminds me of internet of yesteryears
@Luk @GossiTheDog Hard as it may be to believe, but pre-2009 Twitter used to be like that; people just making and sharing neat stuff
@GossiTheDog It does use a couple of cookies, of course. How else do you think it remembers that you're logged in?
@bontchev @GossiTheDog they specifically mention tracking cookies, not sure if there was an edit.
@wheeze_NL @bontchev @GossiTheDog Yes it seems it was edited just after this comment.
@bontchev zero *tracking* cookies
@GossiTheDog threads has joined the conversation.
@GossiTheDog with a web interface with zero cookies, 🧐
@f2k1de @GossiTheDog They said “tracking cookies” and we knew what they meant 
@matt @GossiTheDog Don’t try to gaslight me into a edit that was made after my reply
@f2k1de @matt @GossiTheDog fyi matt, have a close look at the edit log of the original post. you're welcome.

@maxi Ah, I hadn’t inspected the edit log and time stamps. I didn’t even see that this post was edited. 🥹

Thanks for letting me know, in a kind way. 🙂

@GossiTheDog Yeah, it really feels like something different.

It's a shame that it isn't growing as fast as some alternatives, but the slow but sustainable growth alongside the evolution of the technology makes it feel much more like "technology as infrastructure" than the "technology as capital" we've had for the past decade.

Now if only we could diminish the number of reply guys with "actually it does have cookies or else the login wouldn't work...", we could really make it perfect.

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@eskuero @GossiTheDog wow, someone still has an old version with a typo :)
@inex @GossiTheDog is this even considering old? I sorta remember a smaller cringier image from the first exodus but couldnt find it
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Attached: 2 images This one did some numbers back then

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@inex @GossiTheDog no that isnt the one the one I remeber had more the mascot
@eskuero To be honest: I'd totally try to get higher character limits on every service I use, I'm not good at keeping my thoughts shorts. 😁

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