@georgetakei I've heard antivaxxers claim that it's actually because we don't have horses leaving waste in the streets anymore.
That's right: their justifications are literally horseshit.
Lets see how this graph changes now with the outbreaks currently happening in areas with little vaccination ... And see how that compares against today's use of horse transport.
They'd probably shift the narrative and claim that dog shit qualifies, too, or something.
And since peeps gladly believe anything that fits their agenda the onus is on you to disprove them, an effort that typically takes time and money. Time so much that when your're done nobody's interested in your results anymore. That's the trick, you know.
@SomeAnoTooter Some of them probably do. The antivaxx movement is primarily associated with the right wing now, but historically it had pretty deep roots in the "alternative medicine" movement, which has a lot of leftist hippie types. There's probably more overlap in antivaxx/pro-renewables than you'd think.
Hell, RFK Jr himself had a solid record as an environmental activist before he decided to reorient his career around spreading preventable diseases.
@georgetakei and many other diseases...
Found the source:
Battling Infectious Diseases in the 20th Century: The Impact of Vaccines - WSJ.com
http://graphics.wsj.com/infectious-diseases-and-vaccines (Feb 11, 2015]
Joe Rogan and his guests are the enemy.
What happened with measles in the US around 2004?
@zl2tod The alt text says “from 1928 to 2003" so I assume 2004 onwards is “no data”.
Who are you gonna believe, me, or your own eyes?
Reminder of who funds disinformation about health in the USA...moneyed dynasties.
Koch
https://jacobin.com/2021/12/right-wing-think-tanks-herd-immunity-death
Mellon
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/02/robert-f-kennedy-jr-republican-donor-super-pac
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/koch-cash-behind-latest-attack-obamacare/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/us/politics/koch-brothers-affordable-care-act.html
http://realkochfacts.com/using-another-boilerplate-kochs-spread-more-misinformation-about-aca/
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1912437117
https://scholars.duke.edu/publication/1560894
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/feb/02/spotify-joe-rogan-podcast-contract-details
https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/7/22821823/joe-rogan-media-matters-hot-pod-spotify-moderation
@stalbaum @georgetakei This!!
When my first was born, for a couple of hours I flirted with the idea of not vaccinating...then I remembered the stories of my grandmother loosing her best friend and my mom not allowed to be in crowds until the polio vaccine arrived.
If we're not going to hit the history books, we have to at least share family stories so future generations know.
Anybody up for writing an epic poem about the miracles of vaccination?
Not only is there plenty of evidence of external evidence of causation, medical science understands the actual mechanism. The anti-vax hallucination requires a rejection of—and failure to understand—that mechanism.
It is not even that complex. The immune system recognizes dead viruses as a threat, and builds antibodies against them. When the live viruses shows up, it is ready. It's a live-fire drill with combat dummies. It works.
Anti-vax is tribal; facts don't matter.
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